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A coach company with a O-licence can operate 12 seat minibuses (or less) without the need for a HC or PH badge/plate/ops licence i thought?
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Sussex wrote:
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in the case of PH it would have to be booked via the office of a PH operator rather than with individual drivers.

If you do any of this;

in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle

Then that is to 'operate', and the only thing that can operator is a licensed PH operator.

Have FE got operator licenses for every manor they serve? :?


The contract companies have is with FE not the individual company.

FE pay the bill and make the booking.

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Sussex wrote:
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in the case of PH it would have to be booked via the office of a PH operator rather than with individual drivers.

If you do any of this;

in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle

Then that is to 'operate', and the only thing that can operator is a licensed PH operator.

Have FE got operator licenses for every manor they serve? :?


So are you saying that a business man visting a company who then asks the receptionist to book him a "taxi" which may be a ph, that the company is breaking the law?.

Or a hotel guest in a strange city who asks for a similar service, then the hotel would be breaking the law?

I think not :D

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Tulsablue wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Tulsablue wrote:
in the case of PH it would have to be booked via the office of a PH operator rather than with individual drivers.

If you do any of this;

in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle

Then that is to 'operate', and the only thing that can operator is a licensed PH operator.

Have FE got operator licenses for every manor they serve? :?


So are you saying that a business man visting a company who then asks the receptionist to book him a "taxi" which may be a ph, that the company is breaking the law?.

Or a hotel guest in a strange city who asks for a similar service, then the hotel would be breaking the law?

I think not :D


maybe the customer actually wants a ride in the iconic air raid shelter on wheel and risk being the meat on a Lti BBQ....
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Quite clearly this company should be igniting panic alarms in their suppliers.

My competitor rang me last week to ask how much FE owe me. I gladly told him I haven't worked for them for many years and won't in future.

Apparently my competitor is owed 20K going back to May. He was told that he needed to sue them before they would consider paying.

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Tulsablue wrote:
So are you saying that a business man visting a company who then asks the receptionist to book him a "taxi" which may be a ph, that the company is breaking the law?.

Or a hotel guest in a strange city who asks for a similar service, then the hotel would be breaking the law?

I think not :D

I agree of course not, but if the receptionist was in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle then she or her boss would need a PH ops license.

In other words the business man asking someone to ring a PH for them is way different than a firm offering to book PH vehicles on a large scale, and of course taking a commission.

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Apparently my competitor is owed 20K going back to May. He was told that he needed to sue them before they would consider paying.

Does this also answer your question Jimbo? :?

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Sussex wrote:
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Apparently my competitor is owed 20K going back to May. He was told that he needed to sue them before they would consider paying.

Does this also answer your question Jimbo? :?


These firms want setting fire to, I wonder if Frazer Eagle are so slow in requesting payment when they are owed money??
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These firms want setting fire to, I wonder if Frazer Eagle are so slow in requesting payment when they are owed money??

I suspect many of their customers are going bust. But as FE haven't supplied anything other than a phone call, do their care? :?

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I suspect many of their customers are going bust. But as FE haven't supplied anything other than a phone call, do their care? :?


Nope they dont.....they'll merely find another mug to do the work eusasmiles.zip

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think they pay 1.30 a mile for a car down here and 1.70 for a mini bus, will check with a firm i know if they are owing them any money
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think they pay 1.30 a mile for a car down here and 1.70 for a mini bus, will check with a firm i know if they are owing them any money


i hope theres a minimum charge attached...
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I noticed on their FAQ page they don't mention anything about how you get paid!!

I noticed in some of the posts that there is reference to the need for an operators licence if you are offering to supply a taxi service. What I'm curious about is if somebody booked a taxis here through a company that is licenced here but they then arranged for a company outside the area to cover it is that legal or do the 1st company have to have licence in the pick up zone if they are to have another company cover it. I hope that makes sense :?

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think they pay 1.30 a mile for a car down here and 1.70 for a mini bus, will check with a firm i know if they are owing them any money



£10.30 for a 10 mile trip? :shock:

Is that above the minimum wage?
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GBC wrote:
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think they pay 1.30 a mile for a car down here and 1.70 for a mini bus, will check with a firm i know if they are owing them any money



£10.30 for a 10 mile trip? :shock:

Is that above the minimum wage?


It would depend on how long it takes to do 10 miles. Most people would do 10 miles in well under 1 hour so £10.30 is well above the minimum wage.

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