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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:01 am 
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Politics.

Dangerous ground.

First why the difference between us and Germany. Here the share price rules, companies are run to maximise the share price in the short term.

In Germany a much more balance approach is taken and companies are built to last for decades. The share price whilst important is not the key issue for the management team of a company.

Second your average German production line operative is more skilled, better educated and far prouder of the product he is building.

If you build [edited by admin] how can you take pride in it.

There are lots of 'good news' stories in British car production, Nissan, Toyota, Honda at green field sites away from the old 'trade union entrenched' traditional areas.

And then you have probably the biggest success in European car manufacturing, Mini in Oxford. There they went to great efforts to push out the old crew and brought in a whole new team of production line operators.

Don't blame the Chinese/Polish/Germans, blame the Union leaders of the 70'sand 80's.

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The C r ap TX may be built in the uk but the FORD engine come from the USA no wonder they are off the road more than on it. :sad: :sad: :sad:
And a chinky cab how do you order one???? 17 34 45 67 99 and you get free crackers to :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:


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Tom Thumb wrote:
Politics.

Dangerous ground.

First why the difference between us and Germany. Here the share price rules, companies are run to maximise the share price in the short term.

In Germany a much more balance approach is taken and companies are built to last for decades. The share price whilst important is not the key issue for the management team of a company.

Second your average German production line operative is more skilled, better educated and far prouder of the product he is building.

If you build [edited by admin] how can you take pride in it.

There are lots of 'good news' stories in British car production, Nissan, Toyota, Honda at green field sites away from the old 'trade union entrenched' traditional areas.

And then you have probably the biggest success in European car manufacturing, Mini in Oxford. There they went to great efforts to push out the old crew and brought in a whole new team of production line operators.

Don't blame the Chinese/Polish/Germans, blame the Union leaders of the 70'sand 80's.





Germany also has an unenviable unemployment level,it was over 5 million at one point,we had it in the 1980's/1990's, we managed to get rid of ours, it's called higher education :lol: Poland with a GDP per Capita of $12,700 but the highest unemployment rate in Europe,China, a workforce of nearly 800million, with a GDP per capita of $6300 but a growth rate of 10%,the UK has a GDP per Capita of $30,900, so wheres the best place to be?


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The Automotive Industry Worldwide - An Overview


A globalised industry dominated by a few firms
Over 80% of world car production is accounted for by six major global groups (dominated by the USA and Japan). Consolidation in the commercial vehicle sector has gone even further, with five major groups dominating the global markets for trucks and buses. A similar process has occurred in the component sector, which is increasingly dominated by large multi-national firms, which seek to establish a leading position in key technologies. Yet in all parts of the industry some smaller independent companies continue to survive, and indeed thrive, in particular sectors of the market.

The retail sector contrasts with this picture, still largely organised along national lines. Retailers are also consolidating, fuelled by increased competitive pressures resulting from new channels to market such as the internet and growth in imports.



Increasing sophistication
The industry is technologically advanced, both in terms of manufacturing processes and in its products. It is characterised by economies of scale and low unit costs, despite the increasing complexity of the fundamental product. Manufacturers are seeking to differentiate their products through technology and branding to restore margins particularly by applying electronics to vehicles. The proportion of electronics in the average vehicle may well double from the current level of around 20% over the next ten years, particularly in the areas of management systems and telematics. The engine management system alone can be at least 10% of the value of the car. Suppliers are taking on an increased responsibility for product development, design and sub-assembly as the manufacturers focus on core capabilities.

A key force driving technological change is environmental regulation. The industry has made major strides in the areas of emissions control and safety, but will face pressures for further improvement.



Intense competition
The industry suffers from global over-capacity and with manufacturing best practice rapidly diffused around the world, the fight to build or retain market share is relentless and competition fierce. Lean production is not enough; companies are striving to improve profitability by building desirable brands, through excellence in design, engineering and marketing. In Europe last year, Ford and General Motors made losses of $1bn and $463m respectively. They are both in the throes of substantial programmes to cut their overcapacity, through plant closures and other rationalisation. Honda, Nissan and Toyota have also been making losses in Europe, despite their impressive record on productivity. The current economic slowdown, which many commentators expect to worsen, may well lead to further reductions in both the United States and Europe. The pressures on suppliers, which were already intense, are likely to increase yet further


http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/automotiv ... ldwide.xml

Over Capacity is the problem then, is that myth or reality,so do we need more car manufacturing plants, cant help but draw similarities between the Taxi trade and the car industry. :lol:


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Well maybe insofar as there's overcapacity, but the causes of the problem are fundamentally different. The auto industry needs to spend billions on plant, R&D, new models etc, and operate huge timescales ie years to develop a model and depending on years of sales to recoup their investment. So when the demand side of the market changes (say from family saloons to MPVs) the supply side takes a while to catch up, thus overcapacity may result.

The taxi trade is different in that drivers can come and go almost at a whim, thus it's not the pace of change that's the problem. If there's overcapacity then it's a labour market problem, for example the lack of good jobs elsewhere in the economy. But even at that it would be easy to get rid of overcapacity (in theory at least) merely be lowering fares, thus drivers would have to do more jobs to make the same wages. This wouldn't help earnings, but it would alleviate surplus capacity.

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TDO Please explain how doing more jobs for slightly less cuts your income????surely doing 10 jobs a day more will increase it as more people would use the PH or taxi and there would be no need to sit ranked up for long periods remember x=y carry c what ever that ment but I think it ment lower fares = more cash


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I actually said that the wages would remain the same.

When I said that it 'wouldn't help earnings', what I meant was that they wouldn't be any higher and that they would just stay the same despite having less drivers and more work. :-k

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