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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:08 pm 
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dodger wrote:
I have recently been in discussion about taking on a site such as this.
Is this really all people want to talk about or are they not given the oppertunity to talk about anything else.
Thank you,
dodger


Well I know that many chat rooms have been closed down, but on Taxi Driver Online, I would expect related issues to be discussed.

However put something up, and we will see how it goes. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 6:38 am 
the problem about the taxis trade is that we do talk about the other stuff instead of taxis stuff.
if we concentrated our efforts on taxis then maybe we would be able to sort some things out. :?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:08 am 
Johnny wrote:
the problem about the taxis trade is that we do talk about the other stuff instead of taxis stuff.
if we concentrated our efforts on taxis then maybe we would be able to sort some things out. :?


Johnie,
I realy have no clue about what you want exactly, you are free on here to introduce any subject matter you want, if you dont care for the subjects we are at present discussing, then thats your best bet.

what exactly did you want to see when you came on this forum?

its possible to learn a lot about the trade, if you want to know something just ask, someone will answer, we have on here trade union reps, a former licensing chairman, licensing officer, some of us think a solicitor, someone who has been in accountancy, private hire propietors, taxi propietors, drivers, chauffers, and someone who is trying his hand at selling lti cabs, what more do you want?

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:24 pm 
Sorry Wharfie but I'm agreeing with you.
My post was in reponse to dodgers who seemed to want something else discussed bar taxis issues.
I think. :?


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Wharfie wrote:
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pergeot eurocabs fiats eurocabs and merc eurocabs are all m1 tested in thier converted state.

you dont know what you are talking about!

Wharfie


Converted to specifiction but not tested, mate.

Another unsubstanciated allegation against myself, and you have the cheek to claim that you are being abused.

Wharfie, get a grip


yes tested. crash tested

dont let our union fool you they have the same certtification the only difference is the turning circle

lti is a hotbed of spin and lies


Wharfie

B. Lucky :twisted:


Am I not correct in believing that to date:

The ONLY Taxi which has been submitted to DoT and passed full M1 and DDA compliance testing to the full Euro regs is the Mercedes from Jubilee?

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I was of the opinion that no existing vehicles met the DOT full criteria. However the Merc was the nearest.

Perhaps as mentioned in another thread, that's the reason why the Merc has been withdrawn from sale, to be replaced by one that meets the full criteria.

Cos they are going to need them in the smoke, of that there is no doubt.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:57 pm 
Andy wrote:
Wharfie wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Wharfie wrote:
pergeot eurocabs fiats eurocabs and merc eurocabs are all m1 tested in thier converted state.

you dont know what you are talking about!

Wharfie


Converted to specifiction but not tested, mate.

Another unsubstanciated allegation against myself, and you have the cheek to claim that you are being abused.

Wharfie, get a grip


yes tested. crash tested

dont let our union fool you they have the same certtification the only difference is the turning circle

lti is a hotbed of spin and lies


Wharfie

B. Lucky :twisted:


Am I not correct in believing that to date:

The ONLY Taxi which has been submitted to DoT and passed full M1 and DDA compliance testing to the full Euro regs is the Mercedes from Jubilee?



well actually Andy that is right but brings a problem that wrings the neck of Jubillee

that is they cannot produce enough for the market, so the guidelines cannot be published and we have to accept substandard wavs, including lti

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:59 pm 
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I was of the opinion that no existing vehicles met the DOT full criteria. However the Merc was the nearest.

Perhaps as mentioned in another thread, that's the reason why the Merc has been withdrawn from sale, to be replaced by one that meets the full criteria.

Cos they are going to need them in the smoke, of that there is no doubt.


daptac dots advisors definatly said the merc was in, just

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:08 pm 
Sorry that I have not been contributing to the forum but I am otherwise engaged in a little local argument at Manchester Unfairport.
Just to add my little bit I think the whole debate should be moved on from numbers,premiums,Taxi/P.H and into whether we should all come under one department like Water,Electricity etc possibly called Ofttax or some such. This dept.would set up by Government but have autonomy,powers would likely include the setting of sustainable fare structures and would include the distribution of subsidies (everybody else gets them).
I would also like the debate to include whether we as a trade should have the responsibility of the disabled foisted on us so it sparks off the debate about W.A.Vs, I have said it before but there is not a wheelchair on sale that is certified for travelling in a vehicle.I have also said in the past who will bear responsibility if you injure your self in loading/unloading an 18 stone man. Has anybody tried to get insurance for such an accident. I know a district nurse who has just had to take early retirement for injury to the spinal chord. Retirement eased with a massive pay off. Who would pay us? A government dept. should take responsibility instead of leaving us to our own devices!!!
Please do not take this as a anti disabled rant,I just feel that we are expected to shoulder responsibily without the necessary funding.
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Ged May wrote:
Sorry that I have not been contributing to the forum but I am otherwise engaged in a little local argument at Manchester Unfairport.


Hello Ged, for the record what is the latest on the goings on at Manchester?


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Ged May wrote:
I would also like the debate to include whether we as a trade should have the responsibility of the disabled foisted on us so it sparks off the debate about W.A.Vs, I have said it before but there is not a wheelchair on sale that is certified for travelling in a vehicle.I have also said in the past who will bear responsibility if you injure your self in loading/unloading an 18 stone man. Has anybody tried to get insurance for such an accident. I know a district nurse who has just had to take early retirement for injury to the spinal chord. Retirement eased with a massive pay off. Who would pay us? A government dept. should take responsibility instead of leaving us to our own devices!!!


Like most things, we are left to lump it, and just get on with it.

Why is it that when ambulance drivers pick up a wheel chair bound passenger, their rules stipulate that two ambulance staff must do the job? But when we are in the same position, if we don't comply, we are viewed as being discriminative.

In short, how many backs have you got?


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When an Ambulance driver arrives to pick up injured drunks, his regulations require him to call the police for escort assistance. He will then wait, anything up to half an hour or more, around the corner or up the road, until his police assistance arrives.

Well, fair enough eh? Why should ambulance drivers have to deal with potential troublemakers?

I just wonder though, what would happen if we all called the police before we picked up drunks? Reckon they would come at all?

Nope. Me niether.

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When an Ambulance driver arrives to pick up injured drunks, his regulations require him to call the police for escort assistance. He will then wait, anything up to half an hour or more, around the corner or up the road, until his police assistance arrives.

Well, fair enough eh? Why should ambulance drivers have to deal with potential troublemakers?

I just wonder though, what would happen if we all called the police before we picked up drunks? Reckon they would come at all?

Nope. Me niether.


Well we have gone from disabled to drunks, as My views are well known on disabled I will pass for now, my views on drunks however are entirely different, a drunk can cause disabilty, and lads if you dont feel safe lock up and pull away, we have enough to put up with without lumps of flesh [edited by admin] us about falling all over the place and risking a nights wage by spewing all over the place.

They chose to get into that state, its self inflicted, take the next off rank Mick? not on your nellie, the potential risk is far too high.

nice to hear from you Ged mate!

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:49 pm 
Thats it Wharfie. I'd sooner have someone with a disability in my cab than any drunks. Perhaps the biggest thing I notice, is that the disabled appreciate it when you pick them up. They dont throw up all over, they dont give you grief, and most of em have far better personalities than even the average passenger, let alone the drunks.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:38 pm 
Do you think that Mercedes (as a company distinct from the converters), are seriously interested in the London cab market?

If so, are the "rumours" I heard from a Merc dealer (converter) that the new Merc has:

a short (inside 25ft?) turning circle option

hinged doors to the rear saloon (standard)

all round lowerable (kneeling?) air-suspension option

a studded floor-pan allowing the installation of a complete variation of seat/harness configurations.

a split (upper/lower) rear door with parcel shelf option.


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