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Which way will you vote on May 6th?
Tory 58%  58%  [ 19 ]
Labour 15%  15%  [ 5 ]
Lib/Dem 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
None of the above 21%  21%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 33
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grandad
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Far better the 1st past the post system that we already have but with constituencies of the exact same number of electorate...then 30% of winning seats would reflect 30% of the winning vote. that makes a majority win possible and fair.



I am still in favour of the 1st past the post system but your idea that 30% of winning seats would reflect 30% of the winning vote is incorrect.
With the first past the post system you could actually have one party take every seat in the country but actually only have 650 votes more than the 2nd party. Or they could actually take an overall majority with less votes than the second party, which does actually happen.

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It works for others

Australia (senate)
Austria
Belgium
Denmark
Finland
Germany
Greece
Italy
Japan
Malta
Mexico
Poland
Purtugal
Romania
South Africa
Switzerlan
Turkey

to name but a few
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Its obvious why the Tories and Labour dont want it, but 23% (almost 1 in 4) of voters voted Liberal, it clearly is not right they only get 57 of 650 seats?




Tories 10,706,647 (36.1%) seats 306
Labour 8,604,358 (29.0%) seats 258
Liberals 6,827,938 (23.0%) seats 57
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wannabeeahack wrote:
It works for others

Australia (senate)
Austria
Belgium
Denmark
Finland
Germany
Greece
Italy
Japan
Malta
Mexico
Poland
Purtugal
Romania
South Africa
Switzerland
Turkey

to name but a few


I can see at least 1 that has got loads of money....
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minority fringe


36% is a minority :shock:

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What is the point in voting in a system that is flawed? Your vote should count regardless, then again we are a country of sheep being led up the path by a bunch of sheep shaggers anyway, so no point in worrying about it.... :roll: :lol: 8)
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If we have a "first past the post" system how come 258 beats 306?....
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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
minority fringe


36% is a minority :shock:


The Minority fringe I mentioned is the Independants and Other one off parties...it wasnt the Liberals I was on about..infact I can find nothing about the Liberals that I would like to go on about...
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grandad wrote:
bloodnock wrote:

Far better the 1st past the post system that we already have but with constituencies of the exact same number of electorate...then 30% of winning seats would reflect 30% of the winning vote. that makes a majority win possible and fair.



I am still in favour of the 1st past the post system but your idea that 30% of winning seats would reflect 30% of the winning vote is incorrect.
With the first past the post system you could actually have one party take every seat in the country but actually only have 650 votes more than the 2nd party. Or they could actually take an overall majority with less votes than the second party, which does actually happen.


Then long may it last or else nothing nothing inspiring will ever happen in politics...it will just be a mish mash of interparty appeasement with no thought to curing the ailments that dog the electorate...We're at deaths door financially in the UK...one more push and we will be Greeces bedmate. :?
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Then long may it last or else nothing nothing inspiring will ever happen in politics...it will just be a mish mash of interparty appeasement with no thought to curing the ailments that dog the electorate...We're at deaths door financially in the UK...one more push and we will be Greeces bedmate. :?


But didn't all this occur under the system you approve of?

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gusmac wrote:
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36% is a minority :shock:


The Minority fringe I mentioned is the Independants and Other one off parties...it wasnt the Liberals I was on about..infact I can find nothing about the Liberals that I would like to go on about...


36% was the Tory vote on Thursday.

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and thats only 36% of the 78% that voted
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wannabeeahack wrote:
you can see why the liberals are in favour of proportional representation

Tories 10,706,647 (36.1%) seats 306
Labour 8,604,358 (29.0%) seats 258
Liberals 6,827,938 (23.0%) seats 57

a 65% turnout 29,653,638


And yet,

In the 1992 election Liberal vote, 17.8% 20 seats. 6,000,000 votes.

In the 1997 election Liberal vote, 16.8% 46 seats. 5,250,000 votes.

Less is more?

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If we had PR Nick Griffin would probably be an MP by now, lets keep it as it is.

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If we had PR Nick Griffin would probably be an MP by now, lets keep it as it is.


at least griffin nails his colours to the mast, how many racist mps are there really?
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