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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:47 pm 
Andy,
I hope you will understand if I refrain from giving you all an update. Suffice to say that things are in motion and I will post as soon as possible. :D :D
Ged


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:58 pm 
Geoff,
As I said in my post I was not attacking the disabled amongst us, I was pointing out that we are governed by diktat without the appropriate subsidies.
Nobody would pay taxes without being able to vote, surely that is exactly the position we in. Not to long ago at a meeting in Manchester we were arguing against bus only streets in the shopping heart of town. I asked the planner why did we have to have fully accessible vehicles if we were not to be allowed the same freedom. The reply was that we would never be more than 2 hundred yards from the shops at the drop off points!!! Of course it never rains in Manchester.
Like you though I fail to see the connection between drunks and the disabled.
Ged


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:02 pm 
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Do you think that Mercedes (as a company distinct from the converters), are seriously interested in the London cab market?

If so, are the "rumours" I heard from a Merc dealer (converter) that the new Merc has:

a short (inside 25ft?) turning circle option

hinged doors to the rear saloon (standard)

all round lowerable (kneeling?) air-suspension option

a studded floor-pan allowing the installation of a complete variation of seat/harness configurations.

a split (upper/lower) rear door with parcel shelf option.


I would say that any serious vehicle maker would be crazy not to be interested in the London Cab trade. If a vehicle is accepted there, then the world is it's oyster, so to speak.

The HC Merc is (by all accounts) being up dated, and the turning circle could be part of that, who knows?

But whether the turning circle requirement is still part of the Condition of Fitness in London, in a years time, is another matter. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:02 pm 
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I was told by two separate dealers that the new Merc will be on display at Sandown this week.

However, it was May when they told me that.

I'd be very surprised if it was on show, as Merc havn't even announced it yet.

And secondly, because I now have an instant distrust of anything a dealer tells me.

Jubilee told me February. And that they would have one at Donnington next May. Sounds more realistic.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:16 am 
Anonymous wrote:
Do you think that Mercedes (as a company distinct from the converters), are seriously interested in the London cab market?

If so, are the "rumours" I heard from a Merc dealer (converter) that the new Merc has:

a short (inside 25ft?) turning circle option

hinged doors to the rear saloon (standard)

all round lowerable (kneeling?) air-suspension option

a studded floor-pan allowing the installation of a complete variation of seat/harness configurations.

a split (upper/lower) rear door with parcel shelf option.



mecerdes are the worlds favorite taxi
it would not suprise me if they did come up with a 25 turning circle, and if that was to happen I would put my money on LTI becoming converters.

and I for one will definatly buy.

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:11 pm 
I do like the Mercs but if they are going to make big sales they need to get the delivery right. And I dont think they have.
The Fiat is a bit better. But a lot of the lads in Dorest that need wheel chaor cars still go for TXs.
But they have big fat contracts to make them pay. They have more work than they can cope with because there are only half a dozen or so for the whole county.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:17 pm 
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Ian, I can't understand why some lads go for the TX2s.

A mate of mine has just bought one. £1,500 down as a deposit, then £546 a month for the next five years. :shock:

But he swears by them, instead of a large number of drivers who swear at them. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:40 am 
Ian wrote:
I do like the Mercs but if they are going to make big sales they need to get the delivery right. And I dont think they have.
The Fiat is a bit better. But a lot of the lads in Dorest that need wheel chaor cars still go for TXs.
But they have big fat contracts to make them pay. They have more work than they can cope with because there are only half a dozen or so for the whole county.


IN between coverting the mercs is a large mobility market for individuals unfortunatly there is no even spacing on the throughput

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:07 am 
Sussex Man wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Do you think that Mercedes (as a company distinct from the converters), are seriously interested in the London cab market?

If so, are the "rumours" I heard from a Merc dealer (converter) that the new Merc has:

a short (inside 25ft?) turning circle option

hinged doors to the rear saloon (standard)

all round lowerable (kneeling?) air-suspension option

a studded floor-pan allowing the installation of a complete variation of seat/harness configurations.

a split (upper/lower) rear door with parcel shelf option.


I would say that any serious vehicle maker would be crazy not to be interested in the London Cab trade. If a vehicle is accepted there, then the world is it's oyster, so to speak.

The HC Merc is (by all accounts) being up dated, and the turning circle could be part of that, who knows?

But whether the turning circle requirement is still part of the Condition of Fitness in London, in a years time, is another matter. :wink:



Andy,

The jubillee group deny any intention at this stage to affect the turning circle, but dont at this stage rule it out in the future

though I am a liitle baffled about the acceptance in London and worlds thier oyster bit as merc are already the worlds leading provider of taxis!
London would just be another little sales pitch.


Wharfie


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:18 pm 
Wharfie wrote:
Sussex Man wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Do you think that Mercedes (as a company distinct from the converters), are seriously interested in the London cab market?

If so, are the "rumours" I heard from a Merc dealer (converter) that the new Merc has:

a short (inside 25ft?) turning circle option

hinged doors to the rear saloon (standard)

all round lowerable (kneeling?) air-suspension option

a studded floor-pan allowing the installation of a complete variation of seat/harness configurations.

a split (upper/lower) rear door with parcel shelf option.


I would say that any serious vehicle maker would be crazy not to be interested in the London Cab trade. If a vehicle is accepted there, then the world is it's oyster, so to speak.

The HC Merc is (by all accounts) being up dated, and the turning circle could be part of that, who knows?

But whether the turning circle requirement is still part of the Condition of Fitness in London, in a years time, is another matter. :wink:



Andy,

The jubillee group deny any intention at this stage to affect the turning circle, but dont at this stage rule it out in the future

though I am a liitle baffled about the acceptance in London and worlds thier oyster bit as merc are already the worlds leading provider of taxis!
London would just be another little sales pitch.


Wharfie


You been on a brainwashing excersise at Jubilee Geoff???


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:05 pm 
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Well, evenin all. I have just got back from the Sandown Park show (Note: Jubilee were NOT AT THE SHOW), and learned some very interesting information there.

The sources, I would describe as being "good"


The new Merc, is rear wheel drive !!!

And here it is !

Image

It is called The Viano.

It is available with four different wheelbases with accommodation for up to eight passengers.

All the seats come standard on integral tracking.

It does not have a 25ft turning circle, but has an "improved" turning circle.

Merc have done a lot of work on eliminating engine and road noise.

and,

That Jubilee have NOT taken the new Merc on-board, as they are not sure that they can actually convert it legally.

Apparently, it is all down to new Crashworthiness regulations presently going through the EC, and which are due to have legal force in a couple of years time.

So, expect no more Mercs from Jubilee for a while.

And maybe, forget all about the new Merc as a PCO taxi !!!
(As distinct from a People carrier/minibus).

However, talk within Mercedes circles, indicates that a major German coachworks (and that is a proper coachworks - Ie. Not someone who sticks a bit of tracking and windows in a van), is in discussion with Merc about purchasing a line of of special builds targeted at the taxi market but with a completely different body shell. (HMMM. Is this new Merc built as a chassis cab I wonder?) (Hmmmm. Is it EvoBus? I wonder a bit more?)

All very confusing stories. I wonder how true they are?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:30 am 
Nidge wrote:
Wharfie wrote:
Sussex Man wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Do you think that Mercedes (as a company distinct from the converters), are seriously interested in the London cab market?

If so, are the "rumours" I heard from a Merc dealer (converter) that the new Merc has:

a short (inside 25ft?) turning circle option

hinged doors to the rear saloon (standard)

all round lowerable (kneeling?) air-suspension option

a studded floor-pan allowing the installation of a complete variation of seat/harness configurations.

a split (upper/lower) rear door with parcel shelf option.


I would say that any serious vehicle maker would be crazy not to be interested in the London Cab trade. If a vehicle is accepted there, then the world is it's oyster, so to speak.

The HC Merc is (by all accounts) being up dated, and the turning circle could be part of that, who knows?

But whether the turning circle requirement is still part of the Condition of Fitness in London, in a years time, is another matter. :wink:



Andy,

The jubillee group deny any intention at this stage to affect the turning circle, but dont at this stage rule it out in the future

though I am a liitle baffled about the acceptance in London and worlds thier oyster bit as merc are already the worlds leading provider of taxis!
London would just be another little sales pitch.


Wharfie


You been on a brainwashing excersise at Jubilee Geoff???


regretfully Nige I have not the time, to do things like that, things are moving so fast here and this year had to miss both my holidays

however Nige, if you think what I wrote is wrong by all means correct it!


Wharfie


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:33 am 
Andy wrote:
Well, evenin all. I have just got back from the Sandown Park show (Note: Jubilee were NOT AT THE SHOW), and learned some very interesting information there.

The sources, I would describe as being "good"


The new Merc, is rear wheel drive !!!

And here it is !

Image

It is called The Viano.

It is available with four different wheelbases with accommodation for up to eight passengers.

All the seats come standard on integral tracking.

It does not have a 25ft turning circle, but has an "improved" turning circle.

Merc have done a lot of work on eliminating engine and road noise.

and,

That Jubilee have NOT taken the new Merc on-board, as they are not sure that they can actually convert it legally.

Apparently, it is all down to new Crashworthiness regulations presently going through the EC, and which are due to have legal force in a couple of years time.

So, expect no more Mercs from Jubilee for a while.

And maybe, forget all about the new Merc as a PCO taxi !!!
(As distinct from a People carrier/minibus).

However, talk within Mercedes circles, indicates that a major German coachworks (and that is a proper coachworks - Ie. Not someone who sticks a bit of tracking and windows in a van), is in discussion with Merc about purchasing a line of of special builds targeted at the taxi market but with a completely different body shell. (HMMM. Is this new Merc built as a chassis cab I wonder?) (Hmmmm. Is it EvoBus? I wonder a bit more?)

All very confusing stories. I wonder how true they are?



All I can say is Jubillee are talking it up :wink: :wink:

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:52 am 
Anonymous wrote:
Andy wrote:
Well, evenin all. I have just got back from the Sandown Park show (Note: Jubilee were NOT AT THE SHOW), and learned some very interesting information there.

The sources, I would describe as being "good"


The new Merc, is rear wheel drive !!!

And here it is !

Image

It is called The Viano.

It is available with four different wheelbases with accommodation for up to eight passengers.

All the seats come standard on integral tracking.

It does not have a 25ft turning circle, but has an "improved" turning circle.

Merc have done a lot of work on eliminating engine and road noise.

and,

That Jubilee have NOT taken the new Merc on-board, as they are not sure that they can actually convert it legally.

Apparently, it is all down to new Crashworthiness regulations presently going through the EC, and which are due to have legal force in a couple of years time.

So, expect no more Mercs from Jubilee for a while.

And maybe, forget all about the new Merc as a PCO taxi !!!
(As distinct from a People carrier/minibus).

However, talk within Mercedes circles, indicates that a major German coachworks (and that is a proper coachworks - Ie. Not someone who sticks a bit of tracking and windows in a van), is in discussion with Merc about purchasing a line of of special builds targeted at the taxi market but with a completely different body shell. (HMMM. Is this new Merc built as a chassis cab I wonder?) (Hmmmm. Is it EvoBus? I wonder a bit more?)

All very confusing stories. I wonder how true they are?



All I can say is Jubillee are talking it up :wink: :wink:

Wharfie


To supply the mini cab trade in London.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:09 am 
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Nige,
you seem to think you are a hard hitter,
but you are sounding very bitter,
What has Jubille done to recive your bile?
its just more advertising that will make a pile.

so a dressing down you recieved from Mike,
that sent you packing on yer bike,
but you attempted to decieve,
a thick ear you was bound to recieve

When will your web be back on site?
so you can have another bite.
rules you make for every other
but if anyone breaks them you try to smother

stick to the rules so simple and plain
instead of expecting others to take the blame,
nice though to see you back,
lets hope these administrators dont give you the sack.

Paddington Bill.

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