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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:51 am 
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Mick Pollard wrote:
Ok then Sussex.

Why do you want a H/C plate?

To make more money, perhaps.
Because somebody 20 years ago got one for free.
Because they make more money than me.

So, if you get one and you don't find it to be the bed of roses you think it is, but you recon (using whatever logic you used previously) the lads working in the neighbouring city have got it cushy, do not tell me that you would not start crying on for permission to work in that area as well as your own, because that is exactly what you are crying on about now.

B. Lucky


I'm still not sure of your point.

Are you saying that I shouldn't have a plate, cos a chap in the North East says de-limination doesn't work?

At the end of the day, if I get a HC and never take a rank job, I would be no worse off, cos my out goings would be the same as at present.

So all I have to do is a few rank jobs, or stop when the people who flag me down, to be quids in.

If I'm wrong, then just how wrong are those that pay tens of thousands to jump the queue?


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Mick Pollard wrote:
Why do you want a H/C plate?

To make more money, perhaps.
Because somebody 20 years ago got one for free.
Because they make more money than me.



Yes Mick, but do we need to keep on reminding you that you got a free WAV plate from Gateshead council not that long ago, then you asked them for one of the surrendered saloon plates for free, on a non-transferable basis.

As far as I know Andy would gladly take up the first option, as you did when given the chance.

Dusty :|


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Mick Pollard wrote:
My point is that if you delimit numbers and driver numbers dramatically drop within the P/H offices they will become less profitable, therefore less able to continue to advertise to maintain their market share and ultimatly eventually be forced to close. Remember ALL P/H offices like any other business, have a break even point and in the case of P/H that is determined by the number of rent paying drivers they have at their office.

B. Lucky


Yes, if there are more hacks serving outlying areas (say) then there will probably be less work pre-booked, because punters will just jump into a cab instead of faffing about phoning one.

Thus there would obviously be some adjustment, but I suspect that in most cases the current PH cars would just be sitting on taxi ranks waiting for pre-booked work. But if they'd prefer to sit in an office or on a side street then that would be their outlook.

Dusty


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Another thing Mick, hopefully giving all drivers the option of working the rank would stop some PH offices taking the pi$$, since they know they have drivers by the bullocks at present.

Dusty :shock:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:02 pm 
I can see no better way of solving the "pirating" / "blagging" issue than to make ALL vehicles available for Public Hire. Naturally standards must be imposed, but these should be consistent nationwide. The current system wherby a driver can be refused a licence by one council but go 5 miles down the road and be issued one by the next is a complete joke.

Maintain the quality by enforcable standards and there is no need to restrict the quantity by artificial means.

Cheers,

Dave.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:21 am 
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Mick Pollard wrote:
Ok then Sussex.

Why do you want a H/C plate?

To make more money, perhaps.
Because somebody 20 years ago got one for free.
Because they make more money than me.

So, if you get one and you don't find it to be the bed of roses you think it is, but you recon (using whatever logic you used previously) the lads working in the neighbouring city have got it cushy, do not tell me that you would not start crying on for permission to work in that area as well as your own, because that is exactly what you are crying on about now.

B. Lucky


I'm still not sure of your point.

Are you saying that I shouldn't have a plate, cos a chap in the North West says de-limination doesn't work?

At the end of the day, if I get a HC and never take a rank job, I would be no worse off, cos my out goings would be the same as at present.

So all I have to do is a few rank jobs, or stop when the people who flag me down, to be quids in.

If I'm wrong, then just how wrong are those that pay tens of thousands to jump the queue?


yes susex you are wrong, insurance for one is higher for public hire, and theres so many bloody leeches.

wharfie


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:35 am 
Sussex Man wrote:
So all I have to do is a few rank jobs, or stop when the people who flag me down, to be quids in.


When do you expect to get a "few" rank jobs though, or do you want to go sit on a rank in that queue and be on a list at the office.

I would also like to point out that the ONLY time you will pick up a flagger is when the pubs and clubs kick out, and if your not busy with pre-booked work then you ought to pack it in completely. Also on the same point, if you are on your way to a pre-booked job and a flagger sticks his arm out would you stop and let down the punter who has bothered their ar$e to phone you in the first place.

B. Lucky


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:52 am 
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Yes Mick, but do we need to keep on reminding you that you got a free WAV plate from Gateshead council not that long ago, then you asked them for one of the surrendered saloon plates for free, on a non-transferable basis.

As far as I know Andy would gladly take up the first option, as you did when given the chance.

Dusty :|


Oh dear me Dusty, another example of selective posting.

I have had a saloon plate (which I bought).
I have had a WAV plate (which I got for free).

The saloon plate I was able to sell (for the same price I bought it for).
The WAV plate was non-transferable.

TOTAL RESULT = NO PROFIT FROM EITHER PLATE.

Now my saloon plate cost me £5,500 and the car cost £5000, total cost for PAYING A PREMIUM FOR A PLATE £10,500.

The so called FREE plate needed to go onto a WAV which cost me £15,000.

DO THE MATHS, A FREE PLATE COST ME £4,500 MORE THAN A SALOON PLATE FOR WHICH I PAID A PREMIUM.

With regard your statement about asking the council for a surrendered/revoked saloon plate on a non-transferable basis, what bull$hit, what I actually enquired about was the reason that plate had NOT been re-issued to the person who was top of the councils waiting list. When I was told there was no longer a waiting list I asked for another to be started in order to re-allocate any plates returned to or revoked by the council and for the re-issuance to be on a non-transferable basis to stop anyone from profiteering from the plate itself, and of course I asked for my name to be included on the list.

You are, both Suspect and yourself Dusty masters of mis-quotation, you both read selectively and then look for ways to re-arrange the words to be-little the original writer.

B. Lucky


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:57 am 
Mick Pollard wrote:
Sussex Man wrote:
So all I have to do is a few rank jobs, or stop when the people who flag me down, to be quids in.


When do you expect to get a "few" rank jobs though, or do you want to go sit on a rank in that queue and be on a list at the office.

I would also like to point out that the ONLY time you will pick up a flagger is when the pubs and clubs kick out, and if your not busy with pre-booked work then you ought to pack it in completely. Also on the same point, if you are on your way to a pre-booked job and a flagger sticks his arm out would you stop and let down the punter who has bothered their ar$e to phone you in the first place.

B. Lucky


THIS IS NOT MY EXPERIENCE AT ALL, Mick, I do wonder if you are cut out for this job at all!

tonight I knew where to be when for people needing taxis, believe me if you realy know your Town village or city and are streetwise the jobs are always there regretfully the taxis are not.

get out of the rank mentality, so this is your experience eh? then you stick in the stupid question with an obvious answer?

Mick you are out of your depth>

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:06 am 
Mick Pollard wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
Yes Mick, but do we need to keep on reminding you that you got a free WAV plate from Gateshead council not that long ago, then you asked them for one of the surrendered saloon plates for free, on a non-transferable basis.

As far as I know Andy would gladly take up the first option, as you did when given the chance.

Dusty :|


Oh dear me Dusty, another example of selective posting.

I have had a saloon plate (which I bought).
I have had a WAV plate (which I got for free).

The saloon plate I was able to sell (for the same price I bought it for).
The WAV plate was non-transferable.

TOTAL RESULT = NO PROFIT FROM EITHER PLATE.

Now my saloon plate cost me £5,500 and the car cost £5000, total cost for PAYING A PREMIUM FOR A PLATE £10,500.

The so called FREE plate needed to go onto a WAV which cost me £15,000.

DO THE MATHS, A FREE PLATE COST ME £4,500 MORE THAN A SALOON PLATE FOR WHICH I PAID A PREMIUM.

With regard your statement about asking the council for a surrendered/revoked saloon plate on a non-transferable basis, what bull$hit, what I actually enquired about was the reason that plate had NOT been re-issued to the person who was top of the councils waiting list. When I was told there was no longer a waiting list I asked for another to be started in order to re-allocate any plates returned to or revoked by the council and for the re-issuance to be on a non-transferable basis to stop anyone from profiteering from the plate itself, and of course I asked for my name to be included on the list.

You are, both Suspect and yourself Dusty masters of mis-quotation, you both read selectively and then look for ways to re-arrange the words to be-little the original writer.

B. Lucky


yes Mick what a pity you did not follow law.

1 all taxi plates are transferable.

2. councils should not re-issue plates from salloons handed in, but follow rules on new ones.

as I said you are always asking your council to do things they are not entitled to do in law.

as for your arithmatic its bloody awfull!

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:07 am 
I've been doing this job long enough Warfie son, I know that I'm cut out for it and if you think I'm out of my depth then so f****** what.

The LAW must be different where you are Warfie eh kidda, go away and read the law that relates to the activity of a H/C whist not hired. Also while you are there get Suspect Man the relevant LAW wich dictates the acceptance of a pre-booked job whilst sitting on a rank.

For gods sake get a grip you p****

B. Lucky


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:13 am 
Mick Pollard wrote:
I've been doing this job long enough Warfie son, I know that I'm cut out for it and if you think I'm out of my depth then so f****** what.

The LAW must be different where you are Warfie eh kidda, go away and read the law that relates to the activity of a H/C whist not hired. Also while you are there get Suspect Man the relevant LAW wich dictates the acceptance of a pre-booked job whilst sitting on a rank.

For gods sake get a grip you p***.

B. Lucky


get a grip look whos talking! the law is the same everywhere Mick! and according to your postings not only do you ignore it but get your council to do likewise!

so youve done it a number of years? with all the whining not very well!

Id put my reccord next to yours anytime! in all those years mick have you had as much as 10 years experience, or 1 years experience 10 times?

what is your greatest achievement?
or have you achieved anything at all?

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:24 am 
12 years actually Dusty.

The law states that a H/C should return to the closest possible rank at the end of each hiring and at all times when on duty but idle.

The law also states that when a H/C driver enters a designated rank he is obligated to take a fare from that rank and as such cannot accept a hiring other than from it.

I'm not in this business to achieve any more than a decent quality of life for my family, YOU on the other hand want a bronzed statue of yourself erected outside your local town hall.

You don't like me cause I kicked you off our site for being a prat and trying to win arguments rather than trying to help people, if you want to add that to your list of achievements I'm sure it will rank quite highly. I'm not sure how long ypu'll last on here, maybe we should start a sweepstake.

We have a special word for people like you up here Geoff, its diddlywhack

B. Lucky


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:35 am 
Mick Pollard wrote:
12 years actually Dusty.

The law states that a H/C should return to the closest possible rank at the end of each hiring and at all times when on duty but idle.

The law also states that when a H/C driver enters a designated rank he is obligated to take a fare from that rank and as such cannot accept a hiring other than from it.

I'm not in this business to achieve any more than a decent quality of life for my family, YOU on the other hand want a bronzed statue of yourself erected outside your local town hall.

You don't like me cause I kicked you off our site for being a prat and trying to win arguments rather than trying to help people, if you want to add that to your list of achievements I'm sure it will rank quite highly. I'm not sure how long ypu'll last on here, maybe we should start a sweepstake.

We have a special word for people like you up here Geoff, its diddlywhack

B. Lucky



does it realy Mick?

I am sure Mick it doesnt, I am sure thats your interpretation, not the law.

so if I was on rank tonight and I was asked to go to Gateshead I would have to accept it?
no I would not!
diddlywick? is that what they call you then?

by the way mick my dislike for you is your absolute hypocracy, and destroying e-mails and the spineless way you talk about those who are unable to defend themselves and for giving my trades union a gutter image

T AND G you are not fit to represent them!

Wharfie


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Mick Pollard wrote:
12 years actually Dusty.



I said nothing Mick!!!!

If you are accusing me of 'selective posting' then you attributing posts to me that don't exist is even worse, innit??

Dusty :wink:


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