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 Post subject: Taxitalk July 2010
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:07 pm 
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http://www.taxitalk.co.uk/pdfs/TaxiTalk%20Aug%202010.pdf

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News of the OFT dropping its major lines of inquiry in its long-running inquiry into price-fixing in the dairy industry, despite the fact some of the parties involved had already agreed to pay fines in exchange for leniency. The Office of Fair Trading said it had "insufficient" evidence to make all its allegations stick and had dropped two out of five lines of inquiry, should come as no surprise to the taxi industry.

The watchdog said it did not have enough evidence to pursue Tesco on three counts relating to milk and butter prices. Tesco, the only company involved in the inquiry not to admit guilt, maintained throughout that, "acting independently", it had increased prices to aid farmers during a difficult time for the dairy industry.

The diminished scope of the investigation means Morrisons is no longer caught in the OFT net at all. The grocer, which has spent close to £2m defending itself, had always protested its innocence. Indeed, it sued the OFT for defamation, winning £100,000, after it issued a press release containing several "serious errors" including that the grocer had been "warned" about anti-competitive behaviour before.


I'm surprised Taxi Talk magazine didn't notice the mangled sentence construction (highlighted) which might have in turn drawn their attention to the blatant plagiarism of the three paragraphs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010 ... ice-fixing

Of course, drawing attention to this will clearly make me the villian of the piece, and the likes of Toots will think I've been spending hours trying to pick holes in Mr Casey's column.

Actually, it's a bit more straightforward than that. Mr Casey has 'customised' the newspaper's words by adding a few of his own. Unfortunately, he hasn't taken much care over this and the consequently mangled sentence construction stands out. This in turn draws attention to the rest of the stuff in the three paragraphs, which seems, er, a bit un-Caseylike.

Thus a quick search with Google reveals the orignal source.

So it all took a couple of minutes, indeed a lot less time than that expended in writing this post.

But, of course, proper research and debate isn't welcome on here, so I'll bid you farewell. :D

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Actually, I see what Mr Casey has done now. His additions do in fact make sense when considered together rather than as two separate parts.

Unfortunately, for the whole thing to work the first paragraph would have to be one whole sentence. But it's actually two sentences, so it doesn't work.

Sorry.

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Of course, drawing attention to this will clearly make me the villian of the piece, and the likes of Toots will think I've been spending hours trying to pick holes in Mr Casey's column.


WTF has this got to do with me. Leave me out of it ffs :roll:

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Of course, drawing attention to this will clearly make me the villian of the piece, and the likes of Toots will think I've been spending hours trying to pick holes in Mr Casey's column.


WTF has this got to do with me. Leave me out of it ffs :roll:


Hmm... I thought my post was the kind of thing you'd call: "Search, find, cut, twist, turn, post "

And a couple of weeks ago I got the impression that you and Captain Cab were joined at the hip :roll:

But since I've clearly struck a nerve I do apologise :D

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Good Caledonian Cabby.

I'm glad you approve, especially as you didnt actually mention anything about the contents of the piece.

I suspect many taxi drivers were not aware of the OFT effectively dropping their lines of enquiry into the dairy trade, or the giant f*ck up they made of taking the banking industry on.

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Who's trying to defend the OFT? Certainly not me.

As for the contents of your piece, I didn't think it was worth bothering about, and in any case I didn't think I was allowed to have an opinion, but since you ask...

The bit I remember is the OFT evidence that it was more difficult to get a cab in a derestricted area.

Which is a fair point, but unfortunately that makes a mockery of all your other stuff about over-ranking, lack of work etc in derestricted areas.

Thus about as instructive as your argument that drivers aren't working on Mondays and Tuesdays when there's apparently a shortage of cabs - funny, Tone in Dundee never came back on that one - but would instead prefer to work when there's an over-supply. :roll:

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I'm glad you approve, especially as you didnt actually mention anything about the contents of the piece.



By the way, wouldn't that be taking the thread off topic, which doesn't seem to be allowed? [-X

Looks like you've been taking lessons from Toots in double standards :D

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
captain cab wrote:
I'm glad you approve, especially as you didnt actually mention anything about the contents of the piece.



By the way, wouldn't that be taking the thread off topic, which doesn't seem to be allowed? [-X

Looks like you've been taking lessons from Toots in double standards :D


The thread is a link to Taxitalk so I would think that all contents of Taxitalk are part of the topic and yet again not just the bits you wish to cut, copy and paste. Go give your head a wobble :wink: You just can't leave me out of it can you :lol: :lol:

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The bit I remember is the OFT evidence that it was more difficult to get a cab in a derestricted area.

Which is a fair point, but unfortunately that makes a mockery of all your other stuff about over-ranking, lack of work etc in derestricted areas.


It also puts doubt on this little snippet too

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9. For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions, then that person’s safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire.


Would it not be fair to say that people could well be safer in restricted areas because they don't have to wait so long for a taxi or ph?

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The OFT spent close on £250,000 in its much coveted inquiry into the taxi trade, amongst its much lost purpose was to establish “how consumers use taxis and what they value about taxi services.”
If you don’t believe me on that, I suggest you refer to annex c of the report.
The evidence is actually there for those of you out there who are anoraks, for example on page 10 of the annex on every count the taxi service provided in a deregulated area was actually WORSE than a regulated area!


Not quite so surprising as it first seems. Restricted areas are restricted because there is no unmet demand.
Hardly surprising that an area with no demand would have better figures for waiting times than one which does have unmet demand (or no SUD survey was undertaken).
It is certainly not proof that restricting the service in an unrestricted area would improve waiting times or that derestriction would make them worse.

I think there is a certain amount of comparing apples with oranges here and some are trying to use the figures to back up their own views.

I believe this report was made a few years ago.
It might be interesting to go back and look at these figures again in the areas which have changed policy since the report was made, to see what difference it has made to these waiting times.

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Who's trying to defend the OFT? Certainly not me.

As for the contents of your piece, I didn't think it was worth bothering about, and in any case I didn't think I was allowed to have an opinion, but since you ask...

The bit I remember is the OFT evidence that it was more difficult to get a cab in a derestricted area.

Which is a fair point, but unfortunately that makes a mockery of all your other stuff about over-ranking, lack of work etc in derestricted areas.

Thus about as instructive as your argument that drivers aren't working on Mondays and Tuesdays when there's apparently a shortage of cabs - funny, Tone in Dundee never came back on that one - but would instead prefer to work when there's an over-supply. :roll:


You really are at the top of the tree when it comes to being a tvvat aren't you??


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You really are at the top of the tree when it comes to being a tvvat aren't you??


So I take it you're the top of the tree when it comes to being a wanabee profiteer who doesn't like the truth and whose only contribution is to abuse people?

Well you're certainly in good company.

The worst thing about restricted numbers is not that it allows profiteering at the expense of others, but that it allows people like yourself to do the profiteering. :roll:

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Would it not be fair to say that people could well be safer in restricted areas because they don't have to wait so long for a taxi or ph?


Which seems to completely contradict all we're told about derestriction.

As Gus says the OFT figures are probably comparing apples and pears, and in any case Mr Casey says he thinks the OFT report is nonsense, so he can hardly use its figures to support his arguments.

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
Nigel wrote:
You really are at the top of the tree when it comes to being a tvvat aren't you??


So I take it you're the top of the tree when it comes to being a wanabee profiteer who doesn't like the truth and whose only contribution is to abuse people?

Well you're certainly in good company.

The worst thing about restricted numbers is not that it allows profiteering at the expense of others, but that it allows people like yourself to do the profiteering. :roll:
stupid buffoon...... he works in a derestricted area.

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