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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue May 08, 2012 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | im confused |
Greece got bailed out, Italy and Spain, Portugal too and Eire, now France is in the queue who is paying INTO the pot? If the members are broke who is propping the system up? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Tue May 08, 2012 11:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
wannabeeahack wrote: Greece got bailed out, Italy and Spain, Portugal too and Eire, now France is in the queue who is paying INTO the pot? If the members are broke who is propping the system up? they're looking for donations....I sent them to you and nidge....if you want a little advice, dont answer the door tommorrow morning to anyone with a german accent. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Wed May 09, 2012 4:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
captain cab wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: Greece got bailed out, Italy and Spain, Portugal too and Eire, now France is in the queue who is paying INTO the pot? If the members are broke who is propping the system up? they're looking for donations....I sent them to you and nidge....if you want a little advice, dont answer the door tommorrow morning to anyone with a german accent. Ve haf vays of making you pay. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Wed May 09, 2012 6:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
A bit too late for that Osbourne has already given away our hard earned taxes and mortgaged us up to the hilt to replace them |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
wannabeeahack wrote: Greece got bailed out, Italy and Spain, Portugal too and Eire, now France is in the queue who is paying INTO the pot? If the members are broke who is propping the system up? Nobody. The whole system is held together with duck tape and cable ties. 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
wannabeeahack wrote: Greece got bailed out, Italy and Spain, Portugal too and Eire, now France is in the queue who is paying INTO the pot? If the members are broke who is propping the system up? China, Middle Eastern countries, Pension Funds, Norway. There is a lot of cash out there, but the problem with those you name is that those lending want an interest rate that those borrowing can't meet. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Wed May 09, 2012 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
wannabeeahack wrote: Greece got bailed out, Italy and Spain, Portugal too and Eire, now France is in the queue who is paying INTO the pot? If the members are broke who is propping the system up? The little slinty eyed people in China. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Wed May 09, 2012 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
captain cab wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: Greece got bailed out, Italy and Spain, Portugal too and Eire, now France is in the queue who is paying INTO the pot? If the members are broke who is propping the system up? they're looking for donations....I sent them to you and nidge....if you want a little advice, dont answer the door tommorrow morning to anyone with a german accent. Cheers mate I'll remember you in my will. |
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| Author: | taxeman [ Wed May 09, 2012 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
Bail outs in the large are coming from the IMF which like all the financial systems are giant ponzi systems, like all Ponzi systems a day of reckoning always comes....which is within the next 10 years, if not a lot lot sooner.  Duck tap and cable ties is a lot closer than most ppl realize. The current derivative market stands at 707 trillion which equates to an eye watering 500% of the world GDP. Still its immigration and PH flipping that really maters  Fitch summary of a derivative for those that don't know. Companies use derivatives to manage risks related to interest rates, foreign currency exchange rates, equities, and commodity prices, as well as more obscure risks such as weather and longevity. According to the Bank of International Settlements, the notional amount of the global over-the-counter derivatives market was nearly $600 trillion at the end of December 2008. Furthermore, gross market value (the sum of gross derivative assets and gross derivative liabilities) stood at $33.9 trillion. While improved disclosures and transparency are a good start to helping gauge the risks posed by these instruments, it is important for analysts and investors to take a fresh look at risk management practices, including the use of derivatives within that context. The need for better disclosure on derivatives has been obvious since the implementation of Statement of Financial Accounting Standards (SFAS) 133, “Accounting for Derivative Instruments and Hedging Activities” (now Financial Accounting Standards Board [FASB] Accounting Standards Codification [ASC] 815). However, comprehensive derivatives disclosure did not become a U.S. GAAP requirement for most companies until March 2009 with the implementation of SFAS 161 (now ASC 815-10-50), “Disclosures about Derivative Instruments and Hedging Activities.” |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Wed May 09, 2012 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
Its borrow from Peter to pay Paul to pay Francoise to pay Stavros to pay Peter....and each time a transaction occurs an EU Minister and bureaucrat takes a wee slither for themselves... 
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| Author: | taxeman [ Wed May 09, 2012 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
Some quotes for ppl to ponder on Stamp former Director BoE "Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." Congressman Charles A.Lindbergh after the creation of the Federal reserve act "From now on, depressions will be scientifically created." Robert H. Hamphill, Federal Reserve Bank "We are completely dependent on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system.... It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon." Civil Servants' Year Book, "The Organizer" January 1934. "Capital must protect itself in every way...Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd." Eddie Ward, Labor Minister of Australia, "I am convinced that the agreement [Bretton Woods] will enthrone a world dictatorship of private finance more complete and terrible than and Hitlerite dream. It offers no solution of world problems, but quite blatantly sets up controls which will reduce the smaller nations to vassal states and make every government the mouthpiece and tool of International Finance. It will undermine and destroy the democratic institutions of this country - in fact as effectively as ever the Fascist forces could have done - pervert and paganise our Christian ideals; and will undoubtedly present a new menace, endangering world peace. World collaboration of private financial interests can only mean mass unemployment, slavery, misery, degradation and financial destruction. Therefore, as freedom loving Australians we should reject this infamous proposal." |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Wed May 09, 2012 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
bloodnock wrote: Its borrow from Peter to pay Paul to pay Francoise to pay Stavros to pay Peter....and each time a transaction occurs an EU Minister and bureaucrat takes a wee slither for themselves... Not just EU ministers and Eurocrats. Every politician of every persuation and their bureaucrats - local national and european. Not to mention every banker, financier and just about anyone with a couple of million to rub together. They are all corrupt as each other and they all want to [edited by admin] us over so they can line their own pockets. FFS You could open up with an UZI in any bank or government headquarters on the planet and I doubt you would hit an honest man. The last bloke to enter parliament with good intentions was Guy Fawkes.
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| Author: | taxeman [ Wed May 09, 2012 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
gusmac wrote: bloodnock wrote: Its borrow from Peter to pay Paul to pay Francoise to pay Stavros to pay Peter....and each time a transaction occurs an EU Minister and bureaucrat takes a wee slither for themselves... Not just EU ministers and Eurocrats. Every politician of every persuation and their bureaucrats - local national and european. Not to mention every banker, financier and just about anyone with a couple of million to rub together. They are all corrupt as each other and they all want to [edited by admin] us over so they can line their own pockets. FFS You could open up with an UZI in any bank or government headquarters on the planet and I doubt you would hit an honest man. The last bloke to enter parliament with good intentions was Guy Fawkes. Ahem to that... What is evident around the world, from Egypt to Russia to Europe and beyond, is a growing unrest amongst the masses and for how diverse those people are, the single thing they have in common is a lack of true representation. This will (as History has shown) lead to the more "extreme" ideological interests using this disenfranchisement for its own nefarious means. We are from an intellectual stand point living in one of the most interesting periods of history, certainly up there with the latter day years of Rome. The world world systems in place such as WTO, IMF, World Bank, FED and its overseers such as the Council for foreign relations, Bilderbergs are at a cross roads with the masses. As the great shelley wrote. “Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you Ye are many-they are few.” |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
taxeman wrote: gusmac wrote: bloodnock wrote: Its borrow from Peter to pay Paul to pay Francoise to pay Stavros to pay Peter....and each time a transaction occurs an EU Minister and bureaucrat takes a wee slither for themselves... Not just EU ministers and Eurocrats. Every politician of every persuation and their bureaucrats - local national and european. Not to mention every banker, financier and just about anyone with a couple of million to rub together. They are all corrupt as each other and they all want to [edited by admin] us over so they can line their own pockets. FFS You could open up with an UZI in any bank or government headquarters on the planet and I doubt you would hit an honest man. The last bloke to enter parliament with good intentions was Guy Fawkes. Ahem to that... What is evident around the world, from Egypt to Russia to Europe and beyond, is a growing unrest amongst the masses and for how diverse those people are, the single thing they have in common is a lack of true representation. This will (as History has shown) lead to the more "extreme" ideological interests using this disenfranchisement for its own nefarious means. We are from an intellectual stand point living in one of the most interesting periods of history, certainly up there with the latter day years of Rome. The world world systems in place such as WTO, IMF, World Bank, FED and its overseers such as the Council for foreign relations, Bilderbergs are at a cross roads with the masses. As the great shelley wrote. “Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you Ye are many-they are few.” But don't the FEW have Guns, Police, prisons and stuff to keep the Many back in their place ? |
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| Author: | toots [ Wed May 09, 2012 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: im confused |
Bloodnook wrote: But don't the FEW have Guns, Police, prisons and stuff to keep the Many back in their place ? Not necessarily 
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