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| Author: | PeteG [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:17 pm ] |
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Quick question, if someone's got a second... Can HC drivers quote for a job in advance/pre-booking? Or must they always run off the meter? Kind regards Pete |
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| Author: | GA [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:37 pm ] |
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Providing the price quoted is less than the metered fare when the journey begings and ends in the licensing area to which the vehicle is licensed. If the journey ends outside of the vehicles licensing area then a price can be agreed even if that is above the metered fare. B. Lucky 
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| Author: | PeteG [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:58 pm ] |
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Thanks GA! Not quite as straight forward as I was hoping, but it makes sense and is workable... Many thanks for your time! Regards Pete |
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| Author: | JD [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:32 pm ] |
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PeteG wrote: Quick question, if someone's got a second... Can HC drivers quote for a job in advance/pre-booking? Or must they always run off the meter?
Kind regards Pete Depends? Can you be more specific? For instance if you said to me you were moving house and you wanted to fill up my cab with furniture and other household items then I would quote you a special price. If you wanted to travel alone to a destination anywhere within the licensed area, I would inform you that the meter fare would apply or any concession that I might offer? If you were travelling to a destination outside the licensing area then I would quote you a set price or the terms in which I would undertake the hire? A person quoting a price may leave room for negotiation but that is not always the case? It would be advisable to read the 1847 and 1976 acts, most answers to your questions can be found there. Regards JD |
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| Author: | GA [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:29 pm ] |
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The purpose of the journey has no relevance. The point at which the hiring commenses and ends is the only criteria. B. Lucky 
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| Author: | JD [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:00 pm ] |
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GA wrote: The purpose of the journey has no relevance.
I assume you are referring to my moving house scenario? JD |
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| Author: | GA [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:12 pm ] |
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Moving house ................ taking an animal to the vets ............... returning from the supermarket .................. HC are vehicles available for immediate hire ................ and providing the purposes of that hiring is legal the journey can only be charged at the councils prescribed rates when it begins and ends in the relevent borough. B. Lucky 
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| Author: | JD [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:17 pm ] |
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GA wrote: Moving house ................ taking an animal to the vets ............... returning from the supermarket ..................
HC are vehicles available for immediate hire ................ and providing the purposes of that hiring is legal the journey can only be charged at the councils prescribed rates when it begins and ends in the relevent borough. B. Lucky The question asked was this. Can HC drivers quote for a job in advance/pre-booking? I don't see any mention of available hire there, do you? JD |
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| Author: | GA [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:48 pm ] |
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and the answer to the question is YES. although it needed to be explained that a hiring commencing and ending in the relevent borough could not be quoted at a cost greater than the councils prescribed tariff. it was also necessary to point out though that is the journey was leaving the borough of licence the fare quoted could be greater than the councils tariff. you advised that the person could charge more if they were carrying goods which was inaccurate. B. Lucky 
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| Author: | PeteG [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:08 pm ] |
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Thanks GA & JD for your input, The reason for the question was to find out whether or not HC drivers "could" get involved in quoting / tendering for jobs that were detailed online. From what I can tell the answer is yes, they could provide a quote, if that quote happened to be more than the meter for that particular journey (and it was still within the licensed area) they would need to charge the meter price, however, if the quote was less than the metered price, they could honour the quote. If the journey took them outside the licensed area, then the metered price is irrelevant? The next question is "would" they? Which is on my last post Topic 4541 - Got anything positive to say about online quote platforms? Thanks again, and please correct me if I have misunderstood the above, and if not, your feedback would be greatly appreciated on the next part of the question. Kind regards Pete |
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| Author: | JD [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:15 pm ] |
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GA wrote: you advised that the person could charge more if they were carrying goods which was inaccurate.
Not so innacurate. You do understand that individual councils set their own fares and that what might not apply to you in Gateshead might apply to me in Manchester? Such as the station charge for instance? You should also be aware that house removal is not a conventional hire and as such it is up to the driver if he undertakes such a hire. Therefore under the contract of private hire I can refuse any job that I don't feel comfortable with and considering house removal as I stated is not a conventional hire then I would refuse the job unless it was undertaken on my terms. Here in Manchester Mantax stipulate a five pound extra charge for house removals, I am sure other areas might have a similiar charge but it might be a tight squeeze undertaking house removal in a conventional saloon? Now then, this is regardless of what the bylaws might state and I should remind you once again that the questioner stated pre booking, which constitutes a hire made privately, therefore it is up to me whether or not I accept the abnormal booking. JD |
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| Author: | GA [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:23 pm ] |
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I don't disagree that you retain the right to refuse a hiring .................... providing the refusal can be justified. Extra charges are just that and are applied differently across the country. If you accept a hiring in a HC vehicle, whether via telephone, rank or from the street the legal requirement not to charge more than the councils prescribed tariff remains. For example ................ it is possible for any HC to work under a PH contract anywhere in the country HOWEVER the legislation which governs that vehicles use remains under the by-laws of the issuing authority. B. Lucky 
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| Author: | JD [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:36 pm ] |
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GA wrote: I don't disagree that you retain the right to refuse a hiring .................... providing the refusal can be justified.
Extra charges are just that and are applied differently across the country. If you accept a hiring in a HC vehicle, whether via telephone, rank or from the street the legal requirement not to charge more than the councils prescribed tariff remains. So all those Taxi drivers who use their licensed vehicles for weddings under a contract of private hire and who charge a minimum fee are breaking the law? Perhaps Jamie owens and likewise Wedding Taxis will be most enlightened to hear they can only charge the prescribed fare for the journey. JD |
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| Author: | GA [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:47 pm ] |
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I have no knowledge of any conditions of licence in any area other than Gateshead nor am I aware of any dispensations offered to individuals by their licensing authority. I can therefore not comment on individuals circumstances. All I know for sure is that when I accept a hiring in my HC in Gateshead and they ask to go to another area of Gateshead it is illegal for me to charge more than the councils required tariff. B. Lucky
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:52 pm ] |
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PeteG wrote: Quick question, if someone's got a second... Can HC drivers quote for a job in advance/pre-booking? Or must they always run off the meter?
If in doubt just put the meter on, and then charge what you like. Provided it's less than the meter. 
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