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Author:  cabby john [ Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Work legally from a different Borough.
A taxi driver from another borough who has become more of a friend than just another driver, has just opened up a taxi company outside the area that I am badged for.

He is at the moment short on vehicles that take over 4 people, mine takes 7. Is there anything to legally stop me from having work from that office which is outside my area, i.e a pre booking and taking passengers on a pre quoted fare. I would not be able to use my meter as it is on a different rate than their's.

Your view's would be appreciated.
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Work legally from a different Borough.
cabby john wrote:
He is at the moment short on vehicles that take over 4 people, mine takes 7. Is there anything to legally stop me from having work from that office which is outside my area, i.e a pre booking and taking passengers on a pre quoted fare. I would not be able to use my meter as it is on a different rate than their's.

The Brentwood case http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=4629 says that a licensed cab can take work from anyone, anywhere, even if they are un-licensed. :shock:

So if a convicted killer could give you work, then your mate who runs a taxi office should be fine. :wink:
Author:  cabby john [ Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Work legally from a different Borough.
Sussex wrote:
cabby john wrote:
He is at the moment short on vehicles that take over 4 people, mine takes 7. Is there anything to legally stop me from having work from that office which is outside my area, i.e a pre booking and taking passengers on a pre quoted fare. I would not be able to use my meter as it is on a different rate than their's.

The Brentwood case http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=4629 says that a licensed cab can take work from anyone, anywhere, even if they are un-licensed. :shock:

So if a convicted killer could give you work, then your mate who runs a taxi office should be fine. :wink:


You are a gem sir, thank you.

Regards John
Author:  Kit Carson [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:46 am ]
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A Hackney carriage must use the meter if fitted. No exceptions
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:49 am ]
Post subject: 
Kit Carson wrote:
A Hackney carriage must use the meter if fitted. No exceptions

Even if it's not in his licensing area? :-k
Author:  grandad [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:56 am ]
Post subject: 
Kit Carson wrote:
A Hackney carriage must use the meter if fitted. No exceptions


Even when on a fixed price job out of area or on a school contract.
Author:  cabby john [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:21 pm ]
Post subject: 
Kit Carson wrote:
A Hackney carriage must use the meter if fitted. No exceptions


I believe you do not have to if you have agreed the fare before the journey commences. If the journey is within the bounderies then the agreed fare must not exceed the meter!

Distance journeys are quoted on a regular basis without the meter going on, that I believe is perfectly legal.
Author:  JD [ Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:50 pm ]
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It might not surprise everyone to hear that there has never been a case on the subject of fares and hackney carriages undertaking contracts of private hire outside their licensed district.

The 1847 legislation only concerns itself with plying for hire within a prescribed licensed "district" one assumes there is good reason for that because private hire as we know it today would not have been an issue way back in 1847.

Therefore if we look at the legislation logically and apply our minds to the only reference in respect of Hackney carriages used under a contract of private hire, that being section 67 of the LGMPA you will see that the reference to fares only relates to the "district".

In fact everything relates to the "district" where fares are concerned, either within the district or journeys starting within the district but ending outside it. There is no reference to journeys starting and ending outside the district under a contract of private hire.

Therefore in the absence of case law it would be wrong for anyone to categorically say that "A" is the correct way of doing things and "B" is incorrect.

Having said that, if you take the scenario where a fare back in 1847 was taken from one licensed district to another and the cab man arranged to pick the party up the following day and take them from that licensing district to another licensing district out-with his own licensed area, then under what section of the 1847 act would apply in relation to the regulation of fares? Especially when you consider the legislation in question only allows fares to be regulated within the licensed district?

I think it is obvious that a court of law would have a difficult time getting away from the fact that a council can only set a table of fares which apply within its own district.

Taxi legislation is way behind the times because it doesn't address the realities of modern transport and technology. We on TDO have said this time and time again but the likes of the NTA, T&G, GMB, TTG etc etc etc are all quite happy to travel along at their own pedestrian pace as long as things stay the same.

Regards

JD
Author:  edders23 [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:10 pm ]
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Where i operate we are on the border with 3 other districts and much of the work commences in one district and finishes in another because we are the nearest town and the logical place to call One taxi firm operates with a base in rutland but has just one rutland plated car the rest are all SKDC the only objections have come from Rutland county council not SKDC My business runs as an all hackney fleet and we do about a third of our work off the meter and probably 80% off the phones. You can't get near the overcrowded rank half the time ! I very much doubt you would have any problems doing bookings off your mates board as long as the jobs are all quoted or are starting/finishing within your own district in which case you would be entitled to meter the fare
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