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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:20 pm 
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Responses from RMT and others like Unite, GMB, NTA will be submitted in due course after some serious study. You don't jump to conclusions on such a document.

Unite, RMT, GMB will be lobbing parliament on the 10th July Committee room 17 concerning the LC concerns, will we be seeing members from the NTA and Hackney Associations at this meeting. This is to put our concerns to MP'S showing that the Government is not going to get its own way. Be There.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:36 pm 
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DJV wrote:
Responses from RMT and others like Unite, GMB, NTA will be submitted in due course after some serious study. You don't jump to conclusions on such a document.

Unite, RMT, GMB will be lobbing parliament on the 10th July Committee room 17 concerning the LC concerns, will we be seeing members from the NTA and Hackney Associations at this meeting. This is to put our concerns to MP'S showing that the Government is not going to get its own way. Be There.

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All the above had a two day meeting in Birmingham in the last few week at offices in Broad Street with the Law Commission's proposals on the agenda.

I did not know about the meeting, but when when I was in Exeter, I was asked why nobody from Birmingham attended.

Letting people know, in advance rather than after the event, that the meeting was taking place would be a good starting point for the trade from Birmingham to attend.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:58 pm 
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Personally I think such consultations should be nationally advertised in newspapers and that should be the responsibility of whomever is requesting the consultation or whomever is performing the consultation. How the devil they can realistically call anything a consultation is beyond me when the majority of people it will effect aren't aware it is happening.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:29 pm 
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DJV wrote:
Responses from RMT and others like Unite, GMB, NTA will be submitted in due course after some serious study. You don't jump to conclusions on such a document.

Unite, RMT, GMB will be lobbing parliament on the 10th July Committee room 17 concerning the LC concerns, will we be seeing members from the NTA and Hackney Associations at this meeting. This is to put our concerns to MP'S showing that the Government is not going to get its own way. Be There.

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With all due respect to yourself.... nobody in Liverpool or Sefton know anything about your meeting..... but I can assure you that the Law Commission left Liverpool with a flea in their ear yesterday... not from unite I might add but from the Liverpool mayor.....


secondly... I thought the Law Commission was an independent body... but you're saying it's the Government

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:32 pm 
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With all due respect to yourself.... nobody in Liverpool or Sefton know anything about your meeting..... but I can assure you that the Law Commission left Liverpool with a flea in their ear yesterday... not from unite I might add but from the Liverpool mayor.....


I'm sure the LC are quivering in their boots :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:37 pm 
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With all due respect to yourself.... nobody in Liverpool or Sefton know anything about your meeting..... but I can assure you that the Law Commission left Liverpool with a flea in their ear yesterday... not from unite I might add but from the Liverpool mayor.....


I'm sure the LC are quivering in their boots :lol:

I totally agree with you. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:30 am 
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MR T wrote:
captain cab wrote:
MR T wrote:
With all due respect to yourself.... nobody in Liverpool or Sefton know anything about your meeting..... but I can assure you that the Law Commission left Liverpool with a flea in their ear yesterday... not from unite I might add but from the Liverpool mayor.....

I'm sure the LC are quivering in their boots :lol:

I totally agree with you. :D

Is the Mayor of Liverpool an ex-docker hard-case then?

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With all due respect to yourself.... nobody in Liverpool or Sefton know anything about your meeting..... but I can assure you that the Law Commission left Liverpool with a flea in their ear yesterday... not from unite I might add but from the Liverpool mayor.....

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I'm sure the LC are quivering in their boots :lol:
I totally agree with you. :D
Is the Mayor of Liverpool an ex-docker hard-case then?
WE all are, even toots.

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Now that as to be seen Toots with a hard hat and a pair of bother boots on

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but I can assure you that the Law Commission left Liverpool with a flea in their ear yesterday...

Clearly the best/worst example of 'regulatory capture'. The LC have got that spot on.

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Clearly the best/worst example of 'regulatory capture'. The LC have got that spot on.



Perhaps, but 'regulatory capture' is a strange term.

Depending upon what side of the fence you sit, if an association works with an LA is that regulatory capture too?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:07 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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but I can assure you that the Law Commission left Liverpool with a flea in their ear yesterday...

Clearly the best/worst example of 'regulatory capture'. The LC have got that spot on.

Regulatory capture..... I believe the lord mayor of Liverpool wasn't taking any prisoners when he told the law commission to get their tanks off Liverpool lawns.... =D>

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Regulatory capture..... I believe the lord mayor of Liverpool wasn't taking any prisoners when he told the law commission to get their tanks off Liverpool lawns.... =D>

And that's going to get the LC to change their tune? :?

I mean we wouldn't want elected official to put across a coherent case against the proposals put forward by the LC would we? [-(

I suppose it would be a fitting ending to all of this if the area that caused all this aggro was the area most effected.

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Depending upon what side of the fence you sit, if an association works with an LA is that regulatory capture too?

No, because working in partnership to the betterment of customers that also leads to the betterment of the trade, is a lot different to the way plate barons act in respect of restrictions.

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Sussex wrote:
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Regulatory capture..... I believe the lord mayor of Liverpool wasn't taking any prisoners when he told the law commission to get their tanks off Liverpool lawns.... =D>

And that's going to get the LC to change their tune? :?

I mean we wouldn't want elected official to put across a coherent case against the proposals put forward by the LC would we? [-(

I suppose it would be a fitting ending to all of this if the area that caused all this aggro was the area most effected.

The trade didn't ask the Law Commission to rewrite the rules regarding hackney and private hire.... the trade simply wanted the cross border hiring issue sorted out... I am not particularly interested in whether large private hire companies that are basically making huge profits because of the large volume of drivers claiming benefits... or equally as bad drivers from abroad that are used too low wages being brought over here.. living in premises supplied by a offshoot of the company.. 4.5.6 to a house at £100 each a week. my concern is for the full-time professional hackney and private hire driver.. that should be able to work 40 hours a week to make a living wage.... and not 60 to 80 hours a week just to survive..... the Law Commission live on a completely different planet.

Creepe to the Law Commission as much as you like,

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