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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:27 pm 
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mancityfan wrote:
In my experience wavs are used mainly by people with push chairs.people with push chairs will pass me to get in one,but wheel chair uses won't.



Older wheelchair bound passengers are generally happy to travel in a wav younger ones aren't they would far sooner transfer into the front seat of a car and the wheelchair go in the boot as for pushchairs most can be strapped in by taking the seat belt of one of the rear facing seats around the frame simples !!! If the baby is NOT in the pushchair the mums invariably insist on the baby on their lap which is less safe in my experience

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:18 pm 
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Vehicles are not tested to carry push chairs clamped into vehicles,they are tested for wheel chairs,if you have an accident and you have clamped a push chair in and the push chairs occupant is seriously injured,your going to be screwed,I even think that your insurance will be void by using equipment not intend for that purpose..?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:21 pm 
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mancityfan wrote:
Vehicles are not tested to carry push chairs clamped into vehicles,they are tested for wheel chairs,if you have an accident and you have clamped a push chair in and the push chairs occupant is seriously injured,your going to be screwed,I even think that your insurance will be void by using equipment not intend for that purpose..?



We've had this issue with our drivers for years, they've been throwing pushchairs into WAVS with the children still in them. I've told them it's illegal but all they say is, "the Taxi is designed to take them," my reply is, "they've not been crashed tested with puschairs with children strapped inside them."

I'd like to see an insurance claim after an accident.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:39 pm 
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It's a very dangerous practice that could end up with death of a child and a stupid driver loosing his house? You have been warned.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:23 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
Vehicles are not tested to carry push chairs clamped into vehicles,they are tested for wheel chairs,if you have an accident and you have clamped a push chair in and the push chairs occupant is seriously injured,your going to be screwed,I even think that your insurance will be void by using equipment not intend for that purpose..?


Nidge2 wrote:
We've had this issue with our drivers for years, they've been throwing pushchairs into WAVS with the children still in them. I've told them it's illegal but all they say is, "the Taxi is designed to take them," my reply is, "they've not been crashed tested with puschairs with children strapped inside them."

I'd like to see an insurance claim after an accident.

mancityfan wrote:
It's a very dangerous practice that could end up with death of a child and a stupid driver loosing his house? You have been warned.


I completely agree with both of you.

Another thought:
None of the wheelchairs are crash tested. The taxi equipment is but the wheelchairs are not.
To the best of my knowledge, no wheelchair manufacturer will certify their wheelchairs for use as a vehicle seat :shock:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Then the council should not license these vehicles in my opinion,the old fx4 was crash tested in Leeds a few years ago,and in the test the wheel chair user went straight through the roof of the vehicle.lets face it a lot of these vehicles are only van conversions,but wheel chair restraints are not made for push chairs,so I would think that the insurance company would use this to not pay out,as they have not been used for the purpose intended.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:03 pm 
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mancityfan wrote:
Vehicles are not tested to carry push chairs clamped into vehicles,they are tested for wheel chairs,if you have an accident and you have clamped a push chair in and the push chairs occupant is seriously injured,your going to be screwed,I even think that your insurance will be void by using equipment not intend for that purpose..?



s I said in my post push chairs are not clamped in using wheelchair clamps they are secured using the seatbelt with the push chair facing backwards. That is a LOT safer than the child loose on the parents lap and to be honest is virtually the same as a child seat which is after all secured using a seatbelt with the child strapped into the seat. My vehicle is also fitted with adjustable seatbelts which means that any child from about 2 upwards can be seatbelted into a seat

Much of what has been stated in this thread is conjecture because as far as I know there has never been any guidelines issued byn the government on the carriage of pushchairs in taxis perhaps it's something to include in any new legislation

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:54 pm 
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Ask your insurance company if it's ok,and ask them to put it in writing,


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:41 am 
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Our council has written to every operator and owner telling them that this practice must be stopped ASAP. There's no such thing as a buggy bus.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:11 pm 
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I take it back what I said about Ashfield council,there's a brain in there somewhere?


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