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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:17 am 
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What makes you think that after deregulation and the deregulation of vehicle age limits and standards throughout the country, there won't be a complete flooding of your LA area with drivers, vehicles and new operator, most of which will be prepared to work, 14, 16, 18 hours a day and at half the mileage charges you currently run at?

The difference between what you appear to be saying and what I'm saying is that you are implying the whole report is sh** just because it proposes a removal of council's ability to restrict taxi numbers, whereas I'm saying that despite there being some iffy bits in the report, it's not all bad.

It's about time some people opened their eyes up a bit more.

I just don't understand you.

You appear to wilfully want to destroy both the Hackney and PH trades without any logical explanation, other than some twisted self-interest that has nothing to do with either trades.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:22 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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What makes you think that after deregulation and the deregulation of vehicle age limits and standards throughout the country, there won't be a complete flooding of your LA area with drivers, vehicles and new operator, most of which will be prepared to work, 14, 16, 18 hours a day and at half the mileage charges you currently run at?

The difference between what you appear to be saying and what I'm saying is that you are implying the whole report is sh** just because it proposes a removal of council's ability to restrict taxi numbers, whereas I'm saying that despite there being some iffy bits in the report, it's not all bad.

It's about time some people opened their eyes up a bit more.

With regard to CP203, there are some good points in the report.

With regard to taxi numbers / quata, I am on record in previous threads on TDO that I believe the way forward should be a middle ground approach.

That means neither total limitation, nor total de-limitation.

There has to be some sort of sensible middle ground approach that could be formulated and implemented.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:26 am 
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Else you will have to join us mere mortals who manage without such protection.

That's rubbish and you know it.

Your protection in Brighton is age limits and quality vehicle tests.

When they have gone in about two years time, my guess is that you will move on out of the trade because you won't be able to hack the new 'rules' including drastically reduced earnings, because you''ll be running at £1 a mile.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:57 pm 
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Tbh I'm not sure what you're saying because you don't really explain things particularly well. For example what is good about the LC report?

Plenty which I've already gone through a number of times on here.

However when I've finished my response I will list them, but for the record so far there has been more good than bad.


Whatever :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:02 pm 
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
You appear to wilfully want to destroy both the Hackney and PH trades without any logical explanation, other than some twisted self-interest that has nothing to do with either trades.

So because I'm not in the 'lets keep taxi quotas' gang I want to destroy the trade?

I don't f***ing think so.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:03 pm 
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With regard to CP203, there are some good points in the report.

Well let's hope Toots listens to you then.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:04 pm 
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Whatever :roll:

Alright then we will start at the beginning and see how we go.

The LC reject a one-tier system and are proposing a two-tier system of taxis and PH.

Do you agree with them on that?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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Whatever :roll:

Alright then we will start at the beginning and see how we go.

The LC reject a one-tier system and are proposing a two-tier system of taxis and PH.

Do you agree with them on that?

No

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:27 pm 
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No

We are at one on that. :shock:

But methinks most of the trade are more than happy to keep the status quo.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:49 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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Whatever :roll:

Alright then we will start at the beginning and see how we go.

The LC reject a one-tier system and are proposing a two-tier system of taxis and PH.

Do you agree with them on that?


Either is fine with me :D

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:40 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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You appear to wilfully want to destroy both the Hackney and PH trades without any logical explanation, other than some twisted self-interest that has nothing to do with either trades.

So because I'm not in the 'lets keep taxi quotas' gang I want to destroy the trade?

I don't f***ing think so.

You'll learn; the very hard way, as some on here already have, including in Brum.

As I wrote, at the moment you have a small 'pot of gold' in Brightom. That's about to be eroded in front of your eyes, but you're oblivious to the consequences of the proposals.

With derestriction and deregulation comes poor proprietor and driver morale, which translates to indifference about the job and that in turn creates bad customer service and crap driver attitude and vehicle standards..

I'm not just talking about quotas, but the abandonment of age limits and quality vehicle testing being replaced by a basis 'cheap and cheerful' MOT and nothing more than that.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:42 am 
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MR T wrote:
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Whatever :roll:

Alright then we will start at the beginning and see how we go.

The LC reject a one-tier system and are proposing a two-tier system of taxis and PH.

Do you agree with them on that?

No

I didn't realise you were in my gang Mr T!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:37 am 
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Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
You appear to wilfully want to destroy both the Hackney and PH trades without any logical explanation, other than some twisted self-interest that has nothing to do with either trades.

So because I'm not in the 'lets keep taxi quotas' gang I want to destroy the trade?

I don't f***ing think so.

You'll learn; the very hard way, as some on here already have, including in Brum.

As I wrote, at the moment you have a small 'pot of gold' in Brightom. That's about to be eroded in front of your eyes, but you're oblivious to the consequences of the proposals.

With derestriction and deregulation comes poor proprietor and driver morale, which translates to indifference about the job and that in turn creates bad customer service and crap driver attitude and vehicle standards..

I'm not just talking about quotas, but the abandonment of age limits and quality vehicle testing being replaced by a basis 'cheap and cheerful' MOT and nothing more than that.




=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

He won't listen Brum, he's had it off once before by getting issued and then selling it, all his eyes can see is another easy profit, lets say Brighton de-reg'd and he got a plate, you'd then see him here screaming for re-reg before the new found gold lump became too de-valued, and once sold again, he'd be back to normal with the poor little PH guy routine, how people can't see through this man is beyond me, although I'm assured in Brighton he's about as welcome as Anthrax in a shopping mall on a busy week.


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Either is fine with me :D

See that's the point.

Many are saying the report is sh**, when, apart from the Captain, most of us can see some good things in the report.

Now that might for some be only a bit, but it ain't all bad.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:13 pm 
Sussex wrote:
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Either is fine with me :D

See that's the point.

Many are saying the report is sh**, when, apart from the Captain, most of us can see some good things in the report.

Now that might for some be only a bit, but it ain't all bad.



The worry is it's been formed by unqualified people, granted they are in their own line of business but not one of them has ever done either PH or Hack work, so how can they know anything about it, ok they've been round asking the unwashed and probably bought a box load of Paracetamol for use at the end of the day, but it's still no substitute for knowing what you are talking about, we had an LO who was an ex driver from another area, finest man for the job until cancer got him and even before that when the top job was mooted about I said to him grab it, I don't have the right papers for it, so they gave it to a woman who might be bloody excellent at dealing with hot dog vans and pubs but is clueless when it comes to cabs,

So in summary, don't arrive with a screwdriver if yer there to plaster a wall.


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