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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:40 pm 
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Private hire regulation expressly excludes public service vehicles and only applies to vehicles with less than nine passenger seats. Taxi legislation pre-dates modern public service legislation and instead of excluding public service vehicles carves out stage coaches (or “stage carriages” in London) which charge separate fares, as well as tramcars. Unlike private hire vehicles taxis have no limits in primary legislation on their passenger seating capacity. This means there is a potential overlap between public service vehicles and large taxis. We are not aware that this overlap has given rise to practical issues. This is likely to be because public service regulation is sufficiently flexible to cover the role of what would otherwise be a large capacity taxi.8 With the exception of systematic sharing arrangements it would be rare for taxis to pick up a sufficient number of passengers to justify using a larger vehicle.

Well I never knew that. :?

I wonder why no-one has tried to license a taxi with more than 8 passenger seats.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:20 pm 
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Possibly because their known as Mini Busses and the Safety Regulations are different.

The real reason is that even an 8 Passenger Hack is carting round an unnecessary weight of metal.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:23 pm 
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wee eddie wrote:
Possibly because their known as Mini Busses and the Safety Regulations are different.

The real reason is that even an 8 Passenger Hack is carting round an unnecessary weight of metal.

But they operate under separate licensing and can't ply for hire.

Now I know people who would, if they could, license a 10/12+ seater hackney, and it appears there is no reason they can't, other than what some councils have in their bylaws.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:35 pm 
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wee eddie wrote:
Possibly because their known as Mini Busses and the Safety Regulations are different.

The real reason is that even an 8 Passenger Hack is carting round an unnecessary weight of metal.

But they operate under separate licensing and can't ply for hire.

Now I know people who would, if they could, license a 10/12+ seater hackney, and it appears there is no reason they can't, other than what some councils have in their bylaws.



Most councils would refuse to license them I know ours make it clear that the maximum they will license is 8 passengers plus as far as I know PSV rules although newer than Hackney rules would apply if there are more than 8 seats i.e. you would need a psv license

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Sussex wrote:
wee eddie wrote:
Possibly because their known as Mini Busses and the Safety Regulations are different.

The real reason is that even an 8 Passenger Hack is carting round an unnecessary weight of metal.

But they operate under separate licensing and can't ply for hire.

Now I know people who would, if they could, license a 10/12+ seater hackney, and it appears there is no reason they can't, other than what some councils have in their bylaws.

Now there's me thinking that anything with nine seats and over has to have a O licence

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:47 pm 
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Now there's me thinking that anything with nine seats and over has to have a O licence

As was I, but unless they got IBIS to do the legal stuff, then I'm assuming it's right.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:34 pm 
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Its Somewhat Irrelevant that a hack can take upwards of nine passengers as the Law states that anyone carrying that Number of Passengers for Hire and Reward still needs a D1 PSV license, and it would still need to be a COIF certificate PSV vehicle. What would the Point be in Licensing it as a Hack when it would be cheaper to license it on an Operators license which is cheaper and you could still Charge Individual fares.


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