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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:31 pm 
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Today in London delegates from GMB Northern/Birmingham and West Midlands/Southern/North Western and Ireland/and london Regions met to discuss our organising stratedgy for our Industries.

It was decided to arrange meetings with Govt ministers on The O licence issue and the Chauffeur working Hrs issue.

We also received a report of the so called meeting of minds meetings, what was apparent was that GMB representation at this meeting was attempted to be described as national when it was no such thing.It was decided that if we were to send anyone to any future meetings we would insist on sending 2 delegates! one from our Hack members and one from our PH members.It was also unanimously agreed that who our delegation was would be sole perogative of the GMB NOBODY DICTATES OUR DELEGATIONS MAKE UP TO US!

The meeting received reports on Sick Pay/Car Purchase/Insurance/Accountancy Services schemes for our membership and it was agreed that each region would investigate their implementation Nationwide.

Many other issues were discussed and in the course of time will discussed in public.

It was agreed that this body would meet at least quaterly. No doubt the industry will welcome the GMBs determination to be a major influence on our industries .

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Today in London delegates from GMB Northern/Birmingham and West Midlands/Southern/North Western and Ireland/and london Regions met to discuss our organising stratedgy for our Industries.



Did you all fit in the Telephone box? :D


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It was agreed that this body would meet at least quaterly. No doubt the industry will welcome the GMBs determination to be a major influence on our industries :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The wife came home early and found her husband in their bedroom making love to a very attractive young woman and was somewhat upset. "You are a disrespectful pig!" she cried. "How dare you do this to me a faithful wife, the mother of your children! I'm leaving you. I want a divorce straight away!" And the husband replied "Hang on just a minute love, so at least I can tell you what happened."

"Fine, go ahead," she sobbed," but they'll be the last words you'll say to me!" And the husband began -- "Well, I was getting into the car to drive home and this young lady here asked me for a lift. She looked so down and out
and defenseless that I took pity on her and let her into the car. I noticed that she was very thin, not well dressed and very dirty. She told me that she hadn't eaten for three days! So, in my compassion, I brought her home and warmed up the enchiladas I made for you last night, the ones you wouldn't eat because you're afraid you'll put on weight.The poor thing devoured them in moments.

Since she needed a good clean up I suggested a shower, and while she was doing that I noticed her clothes
were dirty and full of holes so I threw them away. Then, as she needed clothes, I gave her the designer jeans that you have had for a few years, but don't use because you say they are too tight. I also gave her the underwear that was your anniversary present, which you don't use because I don't have good taste. I found the sexy blouse my
sister gave you for Christmas that you don't use just to annoy her, and I also donated those boots you bought at the expensive boutique and don't use because someone at work has a pair the same." The husband took a quick breath and continued - "She was so grateful for my understanding and help and as I walked her to the door she turned to
me with tears in her eyes and said, please ... can you give me anything else that your wife doesn't use! :wink:

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It was agreed that this body would meet at least quaterly. No doubt the industry will welcome the GMBs determination to be a major influence on our industries :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hi Mr T,

The GMB PDB are determined to represent their members in both a local and National area. We are also determined to represent both our H/C and P/H members. We are also determined to make sure that the relavent bodies are aware of our existance, and who we represent.

We will also being asking questions such as, why are a meeting of Taxi organisations trying to change laws which effect Private hire Cars? Why are private hire representatives not being included?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:35 am 
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brightonbreezy wrote:
Today in London delegates from GMB Northern/Birmingham and West Midlands/Southern/North Western and Ireland/and london Regions met to discuss our organising stratedgy for our Industries.



Did you all fit in the Telephone box? :D


Our accommodation was very comfortable.

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brightonbreezy wrote:
Today in London delegates from GMB Northern/Birmingham and West Midlands/Southern/North Western and Ireland/and london Regions met to discuss our organising stratedgy for our Industries.

It was decided to arrange meetings with Govt ministers on The O licence issue and the Chauffeur working Hrs issue.

We also received a report of the so called meeting of minds meetings, what was apparent was that GMB representation at this meeting was attempted to be described as national when it was no such thing. It was decided that if we were to send anyone to any future meetings we would insist on sending 2 delegates! one from our Hack members and one from our PH members.It was also unanimously agreed that who our delegation was would be sole perogative of the GMB NOBODY DICTATES OUR DELEGATIONS MAKE UP TO US!

The meeting received reports on Sick Pay/Car Purchase/Insurance/Accountancy Services schemes for our membership and it was agreed that each region would investigate their implementation Nationwide.

Many other issues were discussed and in the course of time will discussed in public.

It was agreed that this body would meet at least quaterly. No doubt the industry will welcome the GMBs determination to be a major influence on our industries .


All good stuff but being an impartial observer I would hope these new measures were, or will be agreed by all members relevant of the organisation through whatever procedures you have in place.

I don't know what influence you have in the GMB PDB but I would suggest that your delegation to these meetings excludes members from Liverpool and the Northwest and anyone who has a connection with the NTTG, as it would appear that these people already have a preconceived agenda and in my opinion and I suspect many others, they will not be impartial or open minded.

I therefore suggest you send delegates from anywhere other than the Northwest, who understand current legislation or are intelligent enough to quickly grasp what they don't already know? These delegates should have only one consideration in mind and that is to the GMB membership and to taxi drivers as a whole. If you send GMB members from the Northwest then you will be shooting yourself in the foot, practically all of them to a man are as thick as thieves with the NTTG in some way or another.

The NTTG, along with the Liverpool T&G and NTA are the driving force behind these proposals but if you want your organisation to rid itself of the elements that put themselves above the National GMB by purporting to represent the National body then now is the time to do it.

All we need now is for you or someone else to post on your website the minutes of all these meetings in order that the majority of the hackney carriage and private hire trade can see what is being advocated in their name. You can show these schemers that trying to formulate national policies that effect every single driver in the UK, behind closed doors is not the way you operate? Get it out in the open and let everyone see what these misfits are up to.

I don't know if you lot are democratic enough to do that, or whether you live in the same fantasy world as these other organisations who think that a few hundred members gives them a mandate to do what the hell they want in the name of the nationwide taxi trade but we shall see?

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JD.. I think the members of the GMB have made their views quite clear , they do not consider that the meeting of minds is made up of natural groups, they have also made it quite clear that they do no wish to attend..... that is their prerogative...... and their views will be passed along .. so now everybody should be happy..

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JD.. I think the members of the GMB have made their views quite clear , they do not consider that the meeting of minds is made up of natural groups, they have also made it quite clear that they do no wish to attend..... that is their prerogative...... and their views will be passed along .. so now everybody should be happy..


Mr T,

The GMB PDB views are quite clear, at the GMB PDB National representatives meeting our brother Mr P Conner was asked to inform the meeting of Minds group that we do wish to attend. However, we will not be dictated to who we send to any meeting.

We will also be writing to Naleo and Mr Falmer informing them of our interest and asking them some very relevent questions.

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brightonbreezy wrote:
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JD.. I think the members of the GMB have made their views quite clear , they do not consider that the meeting of minds is made up of natural groups, they have also made it quite clear that they do no wish to attend..... that is their prerogative...... and their views will be passed along .. so now everybody should be happy..


Mr T,

The GMB PDB views are quite clear, at the GMB PDB National representatives meeting our brother Mr P Conner was asked to inform the meeting of Minds group that we do wish to attend. However, we will not be dictated to who we send to any meeting.

We will also be writing to Naleo and Mr Falmer informing them of our interest and asking them some very relevent questions.

Regards
BB



Good at least now someone else can put upl with your whining

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MR T wrote:
brightonbreezy wrote:
MR T wrote:
JD.. I think the members of the GMB have made their views quite clear , they do not consider that the meeting of minds is made up of natural groups, they have also made it quite clear that they do no wish to attend..... that is their prerogative...... and their views will be passed along .. so now everybody should be happy..


Mr T,

The GMB PDB views are quite clear, at the GMB PDB National representatives meeting our brother Mr P Conner was asked to inform the meeting of Minds group that we do wish to attend. However, we will not be dictated to who we send to any meeting.

We will also be writing to Naleo and Mr Falmer informing them of our interest and asking them some very relevent questions.

Regards
BB



Good at least now someone else can put upl with your whining


Mr T,

I think a trade union taking an interest in issues relevent to its members is far from whining.

The initial issue is not what the MoM discussed, its the total lack of consultation with over 90% of the trade.

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brightonbreezy wrote:
MR T wrote:
brightonbreezy wrote:
MR T wrote:
JD.. I think the members of the GMB have made their views quite clear , they do not consider that the meeting of minds is made up of natural groups, they have also made it quite clear that they do no wish to attend..... that is their prerogative...... and their views will be passed along .. so now everybody should be happy..


Mr T,

The GMB PDB views are quite clear, at the GMB PDB National representatives meeting our brother Mr P Conner was asked to inform the meeting of Minds group that we do wish to attend. However, we will not be dictated to who we send to any meeting.

We will also be writing to Naleo and Mr Falmer informing them of our interest and asking them some very relevent questions.

Regards
BB



Good at least now someone else can put upl with your whining


Mr T,

I think a trade union taking an interest in issues relevent to its members is far from whining.

The initial issue is not what the MoM discussed, its the total lack of consultation with over 90% of the trade.

Regards
BB

Good at least now someone else can put up with your whining

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MR T wrote:
JD.. I think the members of the GMB have made their views quite clear , they do not consider that the meeting of minds is made up of natural groups, they have also made it quite clear that they do no wish to attend..... that is their prerogative...... and their views will be passed along .. so now everybody should be happy..


I can't speak on behalf of the GMB but it would appear to me that they have now taken a huge interest in the events surrounding this meeting of minds exercise and by all accounts they have drawn the conclusion that they should indeed be represented Nationally and by persons who they decide are best suited to the task?

It should be worth noting that the GMB represent most aspects of the taxi trade but specifically they represent a higher proportion of non owning drivers than any other taxi organisation in the UK. Under those circumstances they offer a voice to the largest section of the Taxi trade who might otherwise feel excluded.

I think perhaps there is a fresh wind in the sails of the GMB and if they don't already have Government stakeholder status then I'm quite positive that this will be remedied within the next few weeks.

The GMB has made available to every member of the hackney carriage and private hire trade something which you and your buddies from the North West tried to keep secret. While the credibility of organisations such as the ones gathered around this meeting of minds table has no doubt diminished substantially, GMB credibility among the rank and file of the Taxi trade has probably increased beyond all recognition.

Let us hope that the GMB can continue to put these issues out where they belong, in the public domain.

I said squaring the GMB circle of P/H and Hackney carriage was always going to be a formidable task but I am of the opinion that with the right approach it could be partially achieved. The GMB could become the highest subscribed members organisation in the country, if indeed it doesn't already hold that position?

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JD wrote:
MR T wrote:
JD.. I think the members of the GMB have made their views quite clear , they do not consider that the meeting of minds is made up of natural groups, they have also made it quite clear that they do no wish to attend..... that is their prerogative...... and their views will be passed along .. so now everybody should be happy..


I can't speak on behalf of the GMB but it would appear to me that they have now taken a huge interest in the events surrounding this meeting of minds exercise and by all accounts they have drawn the conclusion that they should indeed be represented Nationally and by persons who they decide are best suited to the task?

It should be worth noting that the GMB represent most aspects of the taxi trade but specifically they represent a higher proportion of non owning drivers than any other taxi organisation in the UK. Under those circumstances they offer a voice to the largest section of the Taxi trade who might otherwise feel excluded.

I think perhaps there is a fresh wind in the sails of the GMB and if they don't already have Government stakeholder status then I'm quite positive that this will be remedied within the next few weeks.

The GMB has made available to every member of the hackney carriage and private hire trade something which you and your buddies from the North West tried to keep secret. While the credibility of organisations such as the ones gathered around this meeting of minds table has no doubt diminished substantially, GMB credibility among the rank and file of the Taxi trade has probably increased beyond all recognition.

Let us hope that the GMB can continue to put these issues out where they belong, in the public domain.

I said squaring the GMB circle of P/H and Hackney carriage was always going to be a formidable task but I am of the opinion that with the right approach it could be partially achieved. The GMB could become the highest subscribed members organisation in the country, if indeed it doesn't already hold that position?

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JD
The sad bit is that you actually believe what you write..........

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The sad bit is that you actually believe what you write..........


Well lets put it this way, The GMB has more members than the organisation you belong, that being the NTA so it already has a head start.

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