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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:09 pm 
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I have received a full copy from my MSP Jeremy Purvis this morning :D

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/publications ... 18120453/0


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QUANTITY RESTRICTIONS OF TAXI LICENCES

So whats the best practise Mr Minisiter?

I don't see any stated preferrence in respect of best practice just a lot of nonsense about what is expected in a survey. The DfT said quantity controls were not in the best interest of the general public therefore best practice would be to remove restrictions.

Can someone write to the Scottish Ministers department and ask them why they haven't stipulated best practice in respect of this section? Is it their opinion that in the public interest best practice is to retain quantity controls or remove them? One would assume in the public interest the least they could do is come off the fence.

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JD, here is his email address, if it helps you :wink:

Dave.williamson@scotland.gsi.gov.uk


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financing of surveys. It is not good practice for surveys to be paid for by the local taxi trade (except through general revenues from licence fees). To do so can call in to question the impartiality and objectivity of the survey process.

oh really!
apart from that!, if the council wishes to defend a policy of restriction,and requires a survey to do so,then that in my view is a self imposed burden and as such should not be charging the taxi trade for it.
as they do in edinburgh
£1205. for an application,feckin jokers.


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all that time to come out with this [edited by admin].
it says bugger all.


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financing of surveys. It is not good practice for surveys to be paid for by the local taxi trade (except through general revenues from licence fees). To do so can call in to question the impartiality and objectivity of the survey process.

oh really!
apart from that!, if the council wishes to defend a policy of restriction,and requires a survey to do so,then that in my view is a self imposed burden and as such should not be charging the taxi trade for it.
as they do in Edinburgh
£1205. for an application,feckin jokers.


Time for a refund for all you Edinburgh guy's me thinks ALI :shock: but wait until the new year that mink coat for her indoors will be cheaper in the sales :lol:


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it seems to me that the exec is obvoiusly aware of what it should be giving as guidance!.as per annex A
but actually fails in giving the advice in the relevent sections.
its a cop out.
as usual the only place to go and get guidance is the courts


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its a cop out.

I agree.

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From my reading of it, councils have been asked to lift restrictions on numbers, they have been asked to licence saloons as well, so that any disabled person not in a wheelchair can get a taxi from the street. :D :D :?: :?:

Councils have been told not to rip taxi owners off with regards to excessive licence fee's :D :D

The 3 year drivers licence is a good thing as long as the council does not go over the top with charges. :D :D

The lifting of Zones within a council area will work well down in the Borders, not sure about the rest of Scotland?? :D :D

There is loads more to be debated :shock: :shock:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:13 pm 
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49. In the conduct of a survey of unmet demand the Scottish Government would commend advice given to licensing authorities by the DfT in June 2004 which set out a range of considerations. Some key points which authorities should consider are:

funny! but did the scottish gov not rubbish this report when it came out.
and now they make reference to it,as a way of avoiding giving any guidance of thier own.


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the problem skippy is with councils like the cec.
with the absence of any firm guidance from the gov,they will interprate this any way they want.


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ALI T wrote:
the problem skippy is with councils like the cec.
with the absence of any firm guidance from the gov,they will interprate this any way they want.


AlI now is the time to get your MSP to do some work for once, Mine is really good
You now have the tools to sort CEC out even through the courts if necessary


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ALI have you managed to sell your plate and cab yet, as this may apply to you :shock:

Return of Plates - Section 10(6)

69. The Scottish Government are aware that some authorities have experienced difficulties over compliance with the return of taxi licence plates required under terms of Section 10(6) of the 1982 Act.

70. The Task Group which undertook a review of the licensing provisions of the Act recommended in its report that in order to address their concerns over non compliance authorities should be encouraged to use their powers under Schedule 1 to insert an expiry date on licence plates at time of issue.

71. The Scottish Government supports this recommendation and would encourage licensing authorities to consider whether the inclusion of an expiry date or car registration number on licence plates at time of issue could discourage non-compliance and assist enforcement personnel in identifying any cases of inappropriate use.


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70. The Task Group which undertook a review of the licensing provisions of the Act recommended in its report that in order to address their concerns over non compliance authorities should be encouraged to use their powers under Schedule 1 to insert an expiry date on licence plates at time of issue.

I suppose if the licenses were given to a named person(s), and issued for say 10 years, and that person(s) name had to be still on the license when they re-issued for another 10 years, then maybe that could help.

But of course if they de-limited, then all this f***ing around wouldn't be needed. :wink:

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70. The Task Group which undertook a review of the licensing provisions of the Act recommended in its report that in order to address their concerns over non compliance authorities should be encouraged to use their powers under Schedule 1 to insert an expiry date on licence plates at time of issue.

I suppose if the licenses were given to a named person(s), and issued for say 10 years, and that person(s) name had to be still on the license when they re-issued for another 10 years, then maybe that could help.

But of course if they delimited, then all this f***ing around wouldn't be needed. :wink:


Sussex our are issued for 3 years in the Borders with the licence fee spread over the 3 years you then have to renew it. all plates must be handed back to the council if you pack in or wish not to renew
I dont know what happens in other area's of Scotland


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