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And that is worse than Mr T's restricted market because....?

Do you want a completely free market?


My point was, you either have a restricted market as Mr T suggests, or you have a completely free market.

But the notion of being told that de-restriction is a 'market forces will prevail' situation is nonsense, because the legislators only want to give the cab trade those components of a free market theory (because that is what it is, just a theory) that they are willing to give us & then call it market forces.

And the best thing is that the cab trade, by & large, have swallowed that idea, which is incomplete.

Me personally? I think that if the legiislators are not prepared to give the cab trade all the other components of a free market trade, then the only way forward, with those restrictions, & that is what they are, is for a system of controlled growth in the cab trade.

By that I mean the system that Manchester & Bristol now have; issue plates when a survey shows they are required in the numbers identified by a survey & have an annual survey.



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Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
gusmac wrote:
And that is worse than Mr T's restricted market because....?

Do you want a completely free market?


My point was, you either have a restricted market as Mr T suggests, or you have a completely free market.

But the notion of being told that de-restriction is a 'market forces will prevail' situation is nonsense, because the legislators only want to give the cab trade those components of a free market theory (because that is what it is, just a theory) that they are willing to give us & then call it market forces.

And the best thing is that the cab trade, by & large, have swallowed that idea, which is incomplete.

Me personally? I think that if the legiislators are not prepared to give the cab trade all the other components of a free market trade, then the only way forward, with those restrictions, & that is what they are, is for a system of controlled growth in the cab trade.

By that I mean the system that Manchester & Bristol now have; issue plates when a survey shows they are required in the numbers identified by a survey & have an annual survey.



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oh and btw trev old bean just so thier no doubt of youre intent and desperation in these maters let me make it clear on what i know as fact.
i have seen copies of pm,s that you sent some edinburgh drivers a few years ago trying to incite violence towards certain peoples property in edinburgh.
best bear these things in mind before you blow another gasket,on that old banger that you mistake for a mind. :lol:


Hello Alastair,.... hope you're daughter is keeping well, I would never make threats, or advise people to damage your property, if I intended you harm... it would just happen. so stop lying.... sorry I forgot.. you can't.. :shock:

my kids doing fine thanks,pity your concern is not sincere.
but thats just you eh..trev the nice guy :lol: :lol:
and yes you did try to incite violence against me/or my property trev you know it and i can prove it.

mind you! youre doing a decent job of proving it youreself

how? you ask??
dead simple trev, i didnt say you threatened me did i ??? :shock: :shock:
as for any real threat trev i know youre full of [edited by admin] "it would just happen"
dream on c'mon get real.

Alastair... I can't be bothered with your nonsense, and to be truthful whenever I read your posts I have this vision of a weasel speaking to me.. it's very off-putting
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Alastair... I can't be bothered with your nonsense, and to be truthful whenever I read your posts I have this vision of a weasel speaking to me.. it's very off-putting
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Think you very much...... that's even worse now.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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And that is worse than Mr T's restricted market because....?

Do you want a completely free market?


My point was, you either have a restricted market as Mr T suggests, or you have a completely free market.


I disagree. Limiting licences is not the only way to regulate the market. Those who benefit from this approach would have us believe that though.
Let's face it, turkeys don't vote for xmas.

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But the notion of being told that de-restriction is a 'market forces will prevail' situation is nonsense, because the legislators only want to give the cab trade those components of a free market theory (because that is what it is, just a theory) that they are willing to give us & then call it market forces.

And the best thing is that the cab trade, by & large, have swallowed that idea, which is incomplete.


There will never be a completely free market - free from any regulation. What we need to do is find the best way to regulate it so that the customers are better catered for and the drivers interests are considered before those of greedy speculators.

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Me personally? I think that if the legiislators are not prepared to give the cab trade all the other components of a free market trade, then the only way forward, with those restrictions, & that is what they are, is for a system of controlled growth in the cab trade.

By that I mean the system that Manchester & Bristol now have; issue plates when a survey shows they are required in the numbers identified by a survey & have an annual survey.

Still leaving the drivers who should have their own cabs to the tender mercies of the carpetbaggers.
There has to be a better way than that.

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Think you very much...... that even worse now.


You think thats bad....you met the skulls?

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Nationalise the taxi industry..... 40 hour week.... and pay the minimum wage.. sorted

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Never work with children or animals.:shock:


I should have listened. :sad:

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gusmac wrote:
Never work with children or animals.:shock:


I should have listened. :sad:


Sorry Gusmac

I've had a long hard week in a deregulated paradise and worked just over 12 hours for below the minimum wage....I thought I'd lighten the tone.

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gusmac wrote:
There has to be a better way than that.


Then what do you suggest?

What you are asking for is 'one size fits all' solution & that never happens. You will never get Utopia, so all the legslators will be bothered with is the service to the customer.

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MR T wrote:
Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
gusmac wrote:
And that is worse than Mr T's restricted market because....?

Do you want a completely free market?


My point was, you either have a restricted market as Mr T suggests, or you have a completely free market.

But the notion of being told that de-restriction is a 'market forces will prevail' situation is nonsense, because the legislators only want to give the cab trade those components of a free market theory (because that is what it is, just a theory) that they are willing to give us & then call it market forces.

And the best thing is that the cab trade, by & large, have swallowed that idea, which is incomplete.

Me personally? I think that if the legiislators are not prepared to give the cab trade all the other components of a free market trade, then the only way forward, with those restrictions, & that is what they are, is for a system of controlled growth in the cab trade.

By that I mean the system that Manchester & Bristol now have; issue plates when a survey shows they are required in the numbers identified by a survey & have an annual survey.



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Never work with children or animals.:shock:


I should have listened. :sad:


Sorry Gusmac

I've had a long hard week in a deregulated paradise and worked just over 12 hours for below the minimum wage....I thought I'd lighten the tone.

CC


Out of interest Cap, what quality controls did your council bring in when they lifted the limit on licences?


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Gusmac ........... Now that's funny :lol:

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MR T wrote:
Nationalise the taxi industry..... 40 hour week.... and pay the minimum wage.. sorted

what do you care you dont drive a taxi, and get paid iether way at the moment.
but even that wont last forever :lol:


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