Taxi Driver Online

This is correct.
In Aberdeen, the licensing forum deals with licences under the Licensing Act (2003 I think).

The licensing committee deals with licences under the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982, the Game Act 1831, the Hypnotism Act 1952, the Theatres Act 1968, the Lotteries and Amusements Act 1976 and the Cinemas Act 1985.

Some councils do deal with all licensing through the same committee. For larger councils, this would be too much for one committee, so it tends to be split.

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We don't really have enough information here.

How do we know the PH picked up illegally.

How do we know he didn't just spot a pal and offer to take him home.

Was the cab office involved?

Police?

Previous infringements or first offender?

How was this lience holder's human rights and right to fair hearing
protected during the process?

As I say, we don't have enough information. Though we do have enough to be concerned that the council may just be acting like fascists again.

Perhaps they're just kneejerk responding t concerns about the public geting into he wrong vehicles? That by stiffig hs guy big time it will convince everyone that they are actualy doing something.

Problem is they'r not. people wouldn't be getting into PH illegally if they could reasonably hail a taxi, would they?

The danger to the public is a direct result of the council's artificial restriction.

They're not off the hook just because they've offered up this sacrificial lamb.

[quote="Jasbar"]We don't really have enough information here.

How do we know the PH picked up illegally.

How do we know he didn't just spot a pal and offer to take him home.



All I know is that a week past Wednesday the Regularity Committe met and one of the many cases they dealt with was a PH driver who lost his license for illegally picking up.

As you well know the Regularity Committe act on complaints from members of the public, Police, Cab Office, other drivers.

I'm not here to defend the committee or the PH driver, just stating the fact that a PH driver lost his license for 'seagulling'

Has the council put the minutes of the meeting on their website and if so do you have link for us all to read the facts?

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Watch out curiosity killed the cat

you wont ever see that.
the council has what they call the b agenda
only the involved parties are partie to the meeting and everyone else is kicked out.

You're missing the point.

I'm suggesting that the whole episode breaches every tenet of an individual's human rights.

The council doesn't have to behave properly, it doesn't have to test evidence to a reasonable degree. They are given the power to do what they like, and they do. Because no one can afford to take the fascists to court to prove them wrong.

So, they get away with it again.

And in this case the council is desperately trying to prove to everyone that they are doing everything possible to prevent the public getting into vehicles, licensed or not, to prevent abuse, assault, rape and prevent a murder happening.

But in this, they are pursuing the futile rather than facing facts that people get into alternatives becasue they are artificially restricting their vehicle of choice, a taxi, which they can't get.

You? You're just happy to see one of the competition stiffed, whether it was really deserved or not.

Now consider what you would think if this guy, hacked off with his treatment, walked into the next meeting and dispensed some real "harm" to these fine upstanding RC members?

Which injustice would you see first?

Remember, these incidents already happen in lots of places throughout the world when city hall becomes overbearing. We've even seen our own cab office torched in the past. So we're already no stranger to such things.

And, no. I'm not seeking to incite anyone to take such foolish action. Such imbecilic action achieves nothing, and who wants to live in such a society.

I'm merely stating that it has happened as a consequence elsewhere and our council is so far up its own posterior, so dictatorial, it should be aware of it.

Councillors certainly have no fear of what a hacked off electorate can do to them .... And when government stops listening and exerts power in a fascist way ....

Well, we've seen the G20 scuffles. Then there was Toxteth and myriad other instances where injustice prevails.

Who's missing the point?

Are you suggesting councils who issue licenses should not revoke them if any license holder breaks the law?

If a publican sells alcohol to anyone under age, councils should turn a blind, not get involved or a shopkeeper dose not ask proof of age when supplying offsale drink to a teenager. Councils who issue licenses should not do anything.

Dosn't matter what the license is for, if rules are broken licenses will be taken away because that's the remit given to local authorities.

If a member of the public, Police or any one else complains to the council about a license holder, the council has a duty to investigate and take action or not as the case may be.

So what's your point caller?

this is about trust.

if you me or anyone else breaks the law,then we all expect to be prosecuted(if caught ) and if found guilty punished accordingly.
this is done in a court of law,by qualified individuals most times.
and of course the accused has the right of appeal to a higher court ,most of the time.

the council however when it comes to taxi/phc licencing can be judge jury and excecutioner, effectivly robbing someone of a fair trial,iwthout the accused having even been to court, informed of his rights, or convicted of any crime.

this can all happen simply becouse of peoples ignorance of the system and the fact that it is a daunting thought and can be expensive to challenge the council in court.
the council know this,they also know that they are not qualified to pass this type of judgement,robbing people of thier livelyhoods and in extreme cases thier homes.
despite never having been prosecuted let alone found guilty of anything

your ok being anonamously accused then tried and found guilt and punished by a bunch of bus drivers and phc drivers butcher bakers and candlestickmakers who work for the council part time.
this sits well with you does it.

Yup, the council operates through fear and ignorance.

Rabbits caught in the headlights, no reasonable defence offered.

The really sickening thing is that the holier-than-thous like council insider accept this. They're quite happy that the council behave like fascists.

Perhaps he should go along to one of their meetings and see real democracy in action. Watch these "pillars of the community" exercise their discretion?

Perhaps he would understand more hearing a councillor say that the information being used to consider a licence applications is flawed, even stating boldly he wanted to go on record to say that, then using that same flawed information to justify refusing a licence.

Perhaps he should witness an RC committee convener say that the information before them only holds true for those few ranks monitored and that there may be demand elsewhere, then use that same incomplete flawed material to justify refusing a licence?

This is how the council operates.

The real problem with McDonald's application was that the RC is NEVER going to grant a licence based on the Law. It is charged to refuse all licences based on the vested interests of the council and their pals in Private Hire and the taxi companies. This is a bias that has nothing to do with how a council should discharge its duties to the public, nor fair play.

It is a manifest corruption of the whole system.

Council insider and his ilk support, pay servile homage to, a corrupt city hall and the corrupt way it conducts its business.

It is the power to do this that is abused that is fascism.

The council operates like a fascist state. The councillors who play the charade do so as fascists.

That is why they truly are scumbags.

Imagine when the next rape happens. Bumbling Colin Keir will stumble through his prepared text -

Ah but did "everything" we could. We licensed taxi company offices. Gosh, we even put signs on PH saying they had to be pre-booked. And, we also stiffed that delinquent PH driver who picked up off the street someone who just wanted to get home and couldn't hail a taxi because we artificially restrict the numbers so that the boys can get a wee kickback when they sell their plate ......

Yup, that'll sure be a comfort to some young female lying in physical and mental pieces in a hospital bed, or to her family as they bury what's left six feet under - a lasting monument to the wholesale stupidity, greed and corruption of city hall and a political system abused by inferior beings.

Is that it?

A time to leave the forum don't you think?

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Council Insider, dug you've got to be halving a laugh . . . .

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Off with his head.


The banned driver btw.