Taxi Driver Online

Oh frank frank frank

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Garry, I'm not worried

I don't like what you and Taylor are attempting but should you find success and the trade goes down the pan I have many other options.


I have an apprenticeship on my cv, degrees in engineering and have worked in various engineering disciplines in various cities across the uk. I choose to do this job as I want the freedom it brings in organising my worktimes and family life. I get offers at least on a monthly basis from employment agencies to work in various sites across the uk. Admitedly it's not what I want to do but I'm defo not worried about work.

So you drive taxis because your a masochist and a worried one at that

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Read it again gary,

You clearly fail to understand.

Well Mr Taylor you seem to think you have a superior intellect to the rest of us, so enlighten us all. Which onerous licensing condition(s) have unduly constrained the Edinburgh trade?

Numerical restriction is NOT a licensing condition............or is it just another delusional unilateral declaration?

This isn't about the licensing conditions you receive when you become a taxi driver, you prat. It's a best practice guide advising council's about licensing conditions in general, and the effect restriction may have as a consequence.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Skull you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Oh really, point to exactly where we have it wrong. We've only quoted the best practice guide and the advice given to councils, their words not ours.


The restriction on licence is a self imposed council burden.

onerous: not easily borne, burdensome, taxing.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Well since messrs Taylor and Skull seems to have departed, perhaps I could answer the question.

The BPG states:

8. Licensing requirements which are unduly stringent will tend unreasonably to restrict the supply of taxi and PHC services, by putting up the cost of operation or otherwise restricting entry to the trade. Local licensing authorities should recognise that too stringent an approach may not be in the public interest – and could, indeed, have safety implications.

9. For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions, then that person’s safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire.

Thus paragraph 8 refers to licensing requirements which are unduly stringent.

Paragraph 9 cites licensing conditions merely as an example of the general principle outlined in the preceding paragraph.

So can anyone reasonably argue that a closed market resulting in plate premiums of £40k upwards doesn't come within paragraph 8?

No doubt some will argue such a case, but I suspect that if you compare this with the kind of more specific measure referred to in paragraph 9 then there's a good chance that numerical controls will be found wanting.

After all, politicians of the two main parties have recently described plate trading per se in extremely negative terms, and that's even ignoring the possible safety implications. Indeed, in paragraph 8 the BPG refers to the public interest generally and not just the safety aspect.

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Caledonian Cabbie

Have you actually read the best practice guide?

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc ... 055071.pdf

Sections 43 to 49 and annexe A refer specifically to numeric controls, as opposed to the sections you quote which refer to other requirements or conditions which may unnecessarily limit the type of vehicle which can be licensed or indeed make it too expensive to operate a taxi in an area with little trade.

Perhaps Caledonian Cabbie could have a meet with jasbar and skull to refine the argument and base it on FACTS.

We're not actually expected to read it, surely



The paragraphs referred to earlier are headed:

THE ROLE OF LICENSING: POLICY JUSTIFICATION

Thus that refers to the whole range of what the council does licensing wise, and therefore could refer to vehicle and driver conditions, numerical controls etc.

Each of the prominent policy areas also has its own section, which you refer to above in relation to numerical controls.

Thus you're comparing the general to the particular. The general refers to the justification of all policies, whereas the particular provides information relevant to particular areas.



I think it's TPTB that should get their house in order.

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Caledonian Cabbie

Why? It's to me that Caledonian and Jasbar are the same person!

Same views, same style of writing, same style of posting in threads and quoting in threads.

Be surprised if they are 2 different people

Clicked on days ago.

Twigged the first post Caledonian made after Taylor was "taking a break"

Who's hiding under pseudaniums and false names now Jim?

Be fair, The only way they will find someone to agree with them in to make someone up.

Sad but predictable.