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And that, coming from the man that used “rape” and “reasonable” in the context of the same debate, not one of your best days CC. :roll:


I think you'll find I stated different, but that doesnt suit your purpose.

June 2010

He is actually on record as stating Edinburgh’s policy of managed growth led to the rape of a female who mistakenly got into a private car driven by a salivating rapist monster who was masquerading as a taxi / private hire driver. That’s nice for the headlines Wee Jimmy boy, but he doesn’t actually have any proof that taxi related rapes are actually more common in either regulated or deregulated areas.

July 2010

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

Wee Jimmy then surmises that I must therefore believe rape is reasonable. He even took the bother of partially quoted Lady Smith who stated;

"What she needed was a licensed taxi to uplift her and take her safely back to the hostel where she was staying.

"What she did not need was the nightmare experience which followed, an experience for which you were entirely responsible."


I don't think rape is reasonable and any person who suggests such is an obvious buffoon, indeed, I think rapists, like child sex offenders should be castrated with blunt instruments, such as a Titleist D2 driver. I also think, whilst were talking offences here, that beating a woman (the battering type, not at chess type) or colleague is also an offence that should more or less guarantee the person shouldn’t be licensed, in some cities such things are frowned upon and drivers licenses are actually revoked.

If a person were to link the rape of a poor girl to a lack of taxi availability, you would think they’d do a little research. Any person of a sound mind would if they were going to suggest such a thing.

You see if there was evidence to suggest rape is more prevalent in areas with limited taxi numbers than deregulated numbers, then I’m quite certain our wee Crank would be jumping up and down, perhaps like a demented baboon, with statistical evidence in hand. The lack of data, suggests our friend, the Crank, is merely jumping of a majorly sick type of bandwagon, where the feelings of the victim are secondary to the overall aim.


The incident to which our Crank refers is a strange one. As many of you will be aware, Edinburgh only licenses a couple of types of taxi, either the purpose built variety, or the bread van. Yet the vehicle the girl apparently got into was a black four door saloon car which wasn’t apparently plated.

The girl didn’t hire the vehicle on a taxi rank but from outside the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street.

The police advice of the time was "Continue to enjoy yourself on nights out in Edinburgh, but think about how you're getting home. At the end of the night book a taxi, don't jump into a car without knowing who the driver is. Private hire cars shouldn't stop to pick people up in the street, and you should always check the ID of the driver."

Edinburgh has marshalled taxi ranks, "Any lone women should go to taxi ranks that are marshalled in the city centre, where they know they'll be safe – there are security staff there and they will be put into a fully licensed Edinburgh taxi."

Indeed, I’m quite sure many of Edinburgh’s PH companies give preferential treatment for single females, just as a number of their English counterparts do on my side of the Border.

Talking to friends in the Edinburgh cab trade, I understand trade is currently slow, so much so taxis have been booked by the police for over-ranking and the council is considering taking further measures. This hardly suggests an undersupply of taxis, does it?


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Oh you're a "taxi driver" alright :roll:


Well spotted Gary, with your ability one day soon, when you grow up, you too could be a taxi driver. :wink:

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I will never be a “taxi driver” CC. I may drive a taxi to earn a living, but to be a “taxi driver” you've got to think like you or Dougie Smith, and what's more, you have to be servile. “Taxi Drivers” beg Councillors for their existence. You will never see me doing that. :-|


So if you'll never be a taxi driver what exactly will you be?


A free thinking individual with the capacity for critical thought that, happens to drive a taxi to earn a living. :-|


A free thinking taxi driver with an agenda :wink:

Ulterior Motive perhaps :wink:
He and Taylor just want to screw the Trade and CEC fact :lol: :lol: :lol:

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It was I, who pointed out that within the context of the debate, your assertion was that "rape is reasonable”.

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Women were raped CC, it's no joke, and it's far from being reasonable.

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It was I, who pointed out that within the context of the debate, your assertion was that "rape is reasonable”.

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I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.


Women were raped CC, it's no joke, and it's far from being reasonable.

:-|


You are either very stupid or just patently thick.

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Skull wrote:
It was I, who pointed out that within the context of the debate, your assertion was that "rape is reasonable”.

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I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.


Women were raped CC, it's no joke, and it's far from being reasonable.

:-|


You are either very stupid or just patently thick.

CC


Your assertion that "rape is reasonable" was made within the context of the debate.




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Staggering indeed.

20,000 medallions in the 1930's and 11,000 now.

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BTW CC, if you look at the names of all of these bidders there was NOT ONE English sounding name. Now I know New York is a cosmopolitan city but it looks very much Ruskie and Eastern Bloc names that were the successful bidders in 2008. You have to ask the questions, where do they get the coin---we already suspect? Why does the NYC taxi authorities allow it--We already suspect?
CC, you are a journalist and you have already stated that you would like to see some of this system implemented. Now that you have the web page what parts of the system would you like to see taken on board by UK LA's.
I await your response or anybody else's.....


Jinky the medallion system has been in place for nearly 80 YEARS, we can learn from that 80 years and put a similar system in place in Edinburgh, we are already half way there.

When assesing the New York Medallion system remember and take in to account we are talking about Edinburgh, so everything is 10 times less risk than it is in New York, i may be wrong it may lesser risk than that, no one in Edinburgh is going to own Hundreds of Plates now are they, i'm about keeping the trade for the individual, keeping the value of the product acceptable and affordable, the value of the medallion up to 2004 devided by 10 equals that of the current value in Edinburgh, if the current value in 2010 of the new york medallion devided by 10 reaches this level in Edinburgh then so be it, the value though has a limit in Edinburgh just like everything has it's limit including licence numbers :wink:

It was Jasbar who started the devide by 10 not me :lol: :lol: :lol:

The system in Edinburgh like New York in the 1930s is being abused and infiltrated, we can't go back, we move forward, the medallion system is the fairest way, keeping all of us happy

Skull sold his plates, AliT has carpetbagged and Taylor is just out to screw the system because the system tried to screw him, there game is ending very soon :wink: trust me

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Your assertion that "rape is reasonable" was made within the context of the debate.

:-|


I think you'll find it was Mr Taylor who made a link between taxi numbers and rape.

A link he has continually failed to prove, presumably because he has been proved consistantly to be a liar.

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Your assertion that "rape is reasonable" was made within the context of the debate.

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I think you'll find it was Mr Taylor who made a link between taxi numbers and rape.

A link he has continually failed to prove, presumably because he has been proved consistantly to be a liar.

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Yes, and it was I, who made the connection with your assertion that “rape is reasonable” as long as the council carried out a Survey of demand.

Jim only pointed to the fact, that the council had a duty to do everything in their power to protect the public. This did not include denying taxi drivers the right to provide the public with a service driving their own taxis.

You made the assertion, that "rape is reasonable", now live with it.


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Yes, and it was I, who made the connection with your assertion that “rape is reasonable” as long as the council carried out a Survey of demand.

Jim only pointed to the fact, that the council had a duty to do everything in their power to protect the public. This did not include denying taxi drivers the right to provide the public with a service driving their own taxis.

You made the assertion, that "rape is reasonable", now live with it.

:-|


You are incorrect, or wrong, and I think your deliberately misrepresenting what was stated.

But for the record;

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.


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Yes, and it was I, who made the connection with your assertion that “rape is reasonable” as long as the council carried out a Survey of demand.

Jim only pointed to the fact, that the council had a duty to do everything in their power to protect the public. This did not include denying taxi drivers the right to provide the public with a service driving their own taxis.

You made the assertion, that "rape is reasonable", now live with it.

:-|


You are incorrect, or wrong, and I think your deliberately misrepresenting what was stated.

But for the record;

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.


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And within the context of the debate your assertion was that "rape is reasonable" as long as the council carried out a survey of demand.

The debate was about the rape of young women was it not? :-|

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Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.
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Skull wrote:
And within the context of the debate your assertion was that "rape is reasonable" as long as the council carried out a survey of demand.

The debate was about the rape of young women was it not? :-|

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Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.
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No you misrepresent my words yet again......I'm beginning to think your doi,ng so on purpose.

I stated;

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

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captain cab wrote:
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And within the context of the debate your assertion was that "rape is reasonable" as long as the council carried out a survey of demand.

The debate was about the rape of young women was it not? :-|

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Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.
:-|


No you misrepresent my words yet again......I'm beginning to think your doi,ng so on purpose.

I stated;

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

CC


I know what you stated, and again, it was within the context of the debate.

And within the context of the debate your assertion was that "rape is reasonable" as long as the council carried out a survey of demand.

The debate was about the rape of young women was it not? :-|

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Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

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Thats clear then, so long as your aware that ;

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

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Thats clear then, so long as your aware that ;

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

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Yes, but your comments were inclusive in relation to the context of the debate. Your assertion was therefore "rape is reasonable"

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Thats clear then, so long as your aware that ;

I dared to air the view that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

CC


Yes, but your comments were inclusive in relation to the context of the debate. Your assertion was therefore "rape is reasonable"

:-|


No, the assertion is yours, I stated; that Edinburgh Council, by regularly surveying taxi demand.....and acting upon the results, were being reasonable.

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