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But has precedent been set by that action?

Sussex wrote:

It will be an interesting case to read.

Until then I'm perplexed as to how a taxi driver takes a booking, without a license to take one.

Clearly they could be on a circuit, or someone could ring them, but a booking is a booking, and that IMO means a verbal booking at the time of pick up.

Clearly, again, the court says different. :-k

Only PH have an operators license! In my area 99% of firms are all hackney NO operators license required it can confuse the hell out of some organisations you deal with who are totally bamboozled but we probably do 90% of our work from the phones and up to 25% or more are jobs outside of the licensing district as we border 3 other districts.

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but as we are all hackney we cannot have an operators license !

So if this chap was on a booking it would have been legal but he wasn't as the OP stated he was caught in a test purchase operation trying to pick up rank work in a neighbouring district

advise please?
Can a hackney carriage licensed in one area work in another area as private hire,
E.g. Licensed as hackney carriage in manchester but work as private hire in liverpool using a liverpool PH circuit?

What about private hire working in other areas legal or illigal?

so I can be licensed in one area and work in another area with the other areas circuit
so it'll be worth my friend to license his vehicle in a cheap area where licence and renewals are cheap and work in his area where it'll all expensive?

jack351 wrote:

No you cant do that, what sussex means is that the place where the booking is received is the place you need to be licensed, along with the operator and vehicle.

captain cab wrote:

jack351 wrote:

No you cant do that, what sussex means is that the place where the booking is received is the place you need to be licensed, along with the operator and vehicle.

I understand
is that same with hackney or can you actually be licensed by one area and work the other area?

Author:	Sussex [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:25 pm ]
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Chris the Fish wrote: But has precedent been set by that action? Yes, all we need find out now is what the action was/is.

Author:	skippy41 [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:39 pm ]
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edders23 wrote: Sussex wrote: It will be an interesting case to read. Until then I'm perplexed as to how a taxi driver takes a booking, without a license to take one. Clearly they could be on a circuit, or someone could ring them, but a booking is a booking, and that IMO means a verbal booking at the time of pick up. Clearly, again, the court says different. Only PH have an operators license! In my area 99% of firms are all hackney NO operators license required it can confuse the hell out of some organisations you deal with who are totally bamboozled but we probably do 90% of our work from the phones and up to 25% or more are jobs outside of the licensing district as we border 3 other districts. Quote: but as we are all hackney we cannot have an operators license ! So if this chap was on a booking it would have been legal but he wasn't as the OP stated he was caught in a test purchase operation trying to pick up rank work in a neighbouring district You would have one in Scotland

Author:	jack351 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:12 am ]
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advise please? Can a hackney carriage licensed in one area work in another area as private hire, E.g. Licensed as hackney carriage in manchester but work as private hire in liverpool using a liverpool PH circuit?

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:37 am ]
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jack351 wrote: advise please? Can a hackney carriage licensed in one area work in another area as private hire, E.g. Licensed as hackney carriage in manchester but work as private hire in liverpool using a liverpool PH circuit? I would say yes, but I haven't read the judgement yet. Providing any work comes via a pre-booking. Now what the court views as a pre-booking will be an interesting read.

Author:	edders23 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:13 pm ]
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If not then there is a lot of Shropshire licensed vehicles in trouble in brum !

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Author:	jack351 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:27 pm ]
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What about private hire working in other areas legal or illigal?

Author:	Sussex [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:10 pm ]
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jack351 wrote: What about private hire working in other areas legal or illigal? Legal, as long as they have a pre-booking.

Author:	jack351 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:32 pm ]
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so I can be licensed in one area and work in another area with the other areas circuit so it'll be worth my friend to license his vehicle in a cheap area where licence and renewals are cheap and work in his area where it'll all expensive?

Author:	captain cab [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:36 pm ]
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jack351 wrote: so I can be licensed in one area and work in another area with the other areas circuit so it'll be worth my friend to license his vehicle in a cheap area where licence and renewals are cheap and work in his area where it'll all expensive? No you cant do that, what sussex means is that the place where the booking is received is the place you need to be licensed, along with the operator and vehicle.

Author:	jack351 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:40 pm ]
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captain cab wrote: jack351 wrote: so I can be licensed in one area and work in another area with the other areas circuit so it'll be worth my friend to license his vehicle in a cheap area where licence and renewals are cheap and work in his area where it'll all expensive? No you cant do that, what sussex means is that the place where the booking is received is the place you need to be licensed, along with the operator and vehicle. I understand is that same with hackney or can you actually be licensed by one area and work the other area?

Author:	captain cab [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:43 pm ]
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jack351 wrote: captain cab wrote: jack351 wrote: so I can be licensed in one area and work in another area with the other areas circuit so it'll be worth my friend to license his vehicle in a cheap area where licence and renewals are cheap and work in his area where it'll all expensive? No you cant do that, what sussex means is that the place where the booking is received is the place you need to be licensed, along with the operator and vehicle. I understand is that same with hackney or can you actually be licensed by one area and work the other area? You must work the area your licensed in, but you can pick up in another area provided the booking was accepted in your own licensing area. CC

Author:	Newhack [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:39 pm ]
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I believe he was approached on a petrol station forecourt in Gateshead and was asked If he would take his passengers to a hotel in Gateshead. Gateshead enforcement have caught quite a few with the same sting and also from the Gateshead hotel to Newcastle central station, a fare of five pounds!

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