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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:48 pm 
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There has always been as least as far back as 20 years a private hire outfit working out of the airport, is it not the case that the hacks have made inroads into the airport market in recent years?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:07 pm 
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sunset wrote:
There has always been as least as far back as 20 years a private hire outfit working out of the airport, is it not the case that the hacks have made inroads into the airport market in recent years?


No. The private "hire" outfit you refer to, was, in fact, qualified taxi drivers driving Private Cars. The hacks only picked up the slack, so to speak, when the work coming through the airport could not be covered by the dedicated airport taxi fleet.

ECPH, was awarded a 30 million-pound contract to manage the taxi operation at the airport. It doesn't get anymore complicated than that. It's their contract. The hacks now provide back-up service in which they have to pay for the privilege of picking up punters.

Oh and the biggest mistake the hacks ever made was to pay to pick up in the first place. That was their road to ruine. =D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:24 pm 
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Ok but it was nae hack vehicles, and before ecph it was another ph lot run by comcab, it's only in the last eight years or so that the hacks have been able to rank at the airport therefore gaining work ?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:47 pm 
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sunset wrote:
Ok but it was nae hack vehicles, and before ecph it was another ph lot run by comcab, it's only in the last eight years or so that the hacks have been able to rank at the airport therefore gaining work ?


No. There has always been hacks picking up at the airport. There was a dedicated airport fleet with qualified drivers and private cars. And then there was a mixed fleet of the existing airport taxis and hacks and yes, I think it was comcab that operated out of the airport rank for a short time but there has always been back-up from the hack fleet. It's only in recent years, that taxis had to pay to drop off and pick up, and it was the shared contract between City and CRT that ruined everything.

I bet you, in my time, I picked up more jobs from the airport than anyone out there paying for the privilege now.

It was City and CRT that fu*ked the whole show and that's why ECPH, have the contract now.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:20 pm 
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Lol are you turning my words about? Ok hacks have always been able to pick up but only when there was no private cars available, that changed about I'm guessing 8 years ago when hacks where allowed to rank alongside the ph surely meaning that hacks are now taking a larger % of the work leaving the airport, and I have no doubt that yoh managed to blag lots of Work leaving the airport before the ranking of hacks was allowed


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:32 pm 
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sunset wrote:
Lol are you turning my words about? Ok hacks have always been able to pick up but only when there was no private cars available, that changed about I'm guessing 8 years ago when hacks where allowed to rank alongside the ph surely meaning that hacks are now taking a larger % of the work leaving the airport, and I have no doubt that yoh managed to blag lots of Work leaving the airport before the ranking of hacks was allowed


Okay, let me ask you a question, when the dedicated airport fleet was not available to pick up the work coming through the terminal, who was? Oh and it matters not a jot, whether you are sitting on the airport rank or not.

That's right, the only difference is, now you are paying for the privilege, while acting as a back-up service to PH.

Ranking at the Airport only means you are not available for work, elsewhere in the capital, between flight's landing. :-|

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:38 pm 
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Here's another one for you sunset. When city cabs took the Waverley contract they lost work from the suburbs which was picked up by CRT and and the PH.

The work simply moves around, and you end up paying for nothing. The Hack fleet is fixed, and the work stays the same.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:01 pm 
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Anyhoo Sunset, I fail to see your point, unless it's that, working to further Ph interests, is good for your trade. :?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:23 pm 
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Gaz, why do you think a 1000+ fleet of hacks would stop the growth or invasion of PHC? You miss the point, you could have 2000+ hacks in Edinburgh but with any size of PHC fleet this gives the customer a choice. The glaring mistake that both cooperatives have made over the years is not to have their own PHC arm thereby giving customers a choice but keeping the profit and a degree of control.


I agree. I even supported the move to bring Ph into CRT. The proposal got shot down in flames by ignorant stupid taxi drivers, who couldn't see the writing on the wall. Oh and that was nearly twenty years ago. :-|

As for the Hacks and their service to the public, there was never a single company that had enough cars, especially at peak times, to cover the work efficiently. And because CRT and City wouldn't work together to meet public demand, they started hemorrhaging work to the Ph. It wasn't long before Satellite ph companies started popping up all over the City, Leith, Gilmerton, Corstorphine, Longstone, Portobello and so on... This forced the hacks out of the suburbs and into the City Centre to work.

The above is partially why you have the situation you do now, with ECPH being awarded the Airport contract.


I hear where you are coming from, but I sat down with the then manager of CRT and explained what was happening, and he agreed. The trouble was that committees of both companies were working to protect their own interests by keeping City, and CRT divided. Oh and nothing has changed, if fact, it got worse because now City and CRT are working to expand ph interests, whether directly or indirectly, if you get my meaning. :-|


I've sort o lost the point myself lol I think it was in relation to the airport point you expressed above and hacks losing out in the suburbs and I felt you sort of classed the airport as a suburb and my point was that the hacks had I felt made inroads in taking more work from the airport as opposed to losing it


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