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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:39 am 
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Kevin's nickname is bully beef :wink:

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MR T wrote:
Kevin's nickname is bully beef :wink:
You got that wrong, Its Kevin bone head Maguire. [edited by admin] i hope he does not know where i live . regards streetcars.


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Seems bloody strange WHO voted for this sell out, when did the members meet, how can FULLTIMERS accept HALF a deal whose seen the proposals in writing.Do i detect the influence of licence holders who rent out and dont drive?
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No one voted as far as i Know ,when the meeting took place, no one seems to know . It seems the entire work of bone head Maguire, but i could be wrong . I know with the odd exception, plate holders are a bunch of [edited by admin] , but we can not put this travesty down to them . regards streetcars


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Has nobody noticed its a sell out?
It takes some one 200 miles away to see this . You are absolutly right , well done . spot on .But why ? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: regards streetcars


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I see an awful lot of words but very little towards a grip on the reality of the situation.

The truth is, as the trade know fine well from other areas such as the Trafford Centre, Stanstead Airport, Blackpool Airport, the Metrocentre, Watford Station (need I go on?) that the position is weak.

The trade claim it can unite, yet will in the majority of areas, not think twice about shafting the guy in front.

Whilst the trade can make a hue and cry about free and open access, for the most part it is nothing more than lip-service, broken down in various areas of the country this actually means free and open access to a select group. Some people are more free than others?

If the T&G think a barrier system is best, I would tend to agree, because the alternative is worse.

Until such time as the government demand all vehicles serving transport interchanges are wheelchair accessible hackney carriage, as per the best intentions of the phase one requirements, the trade will always be in a position of weakness.

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I would think the drivers who are likely to pay this LEVY should be the people who take the decision whether to or not.


I think we would all agree with that but we don't actually know who's representing who in these talks? The T & G will be representing their members which going off national statistics will represent about 5% of Liverpool cab drivers but that doesn't give them a mandate to agree terms. We are on the outside looking in so we shall just have to wait and see what transpires?

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I dont work or live in the area and dont know all the issues involved, the only issue to me is who does the agreement or not.


We are all in the same boat with the exception of streetcars but I doubt he will be consulted by way of ballot should an agreement be reached?

Logistics dictate that a full drivers ballot on any agreed terms is unlikely but whoever is doing the negotiating might justify their actions by consulting their own members? On the other side of the coin they might consult no one at all?

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captain cab wrote:

If the T&G think a barrier system is best, I would tend to agree, because the alternative is worse.



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Thats the whole point, its not just a barrier, put a pound in and get out of the airport. Maguire even says you will have to apply for a swipe card . Robin Tudor is talking about Dress codes. What i dress in , or what my cab looks like, is [edited by admin] all to with some jumped up, pen pusher at the airport . Thats between me and my L A .Even you can this swipecard, is just a permit by another name, just a control on drivers . One that is going to make the airport loads of money.How these decisions are being made no one knows. regards streetcars


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captain cab wrote:

If the T&G think a barrier system is best, I would tend to agree, because the alternative is worse.



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Thats the whole point, its not just a barrier, put a pound in and get out of the airport. Maguire even says you will have to apply for a swipe card . Robin Tudor is talking about Dress codes. What i dress in , or what my cab looks like, is [edited by admin] all to with some jumped up, pen pusher at the airport . Thats between me and my L A .Even you can this swipecard, is just a permit by another name, just a control on drivers . One that is going to make the airport loads of money.How these decisions are being made no one knows. regards streetcars


So its a barrier system, with a swipe card that acts like a mobile phone 'top up' card.

If Mr McGuire says you have to apply isn't that fair enough? The only people using the airport and buying the swipe cards will be those that are using the airport surely?

Indeed, wont the swipe-card technology be able to give the trade reports as to who uses the airport the most?

I take your point regarding the discipline of drivers, but I've been consistent on that, its not the airports job to control drivers, its the local authorities remit.

These decisions are usually made in the absence of anyone wishing to place their private parts into the lions mouth, its easy....stand back and criticise if someone else messes up. Have you raised your concerns locally?

Have you thought, about organising yourselves and affiliating to a body, or is this another case of breaking glass in case of an emergency?

I don't blame you for raising question, but lets face facts here, if this situation at the airport hadn't have arisen, life would go on pretty much as normal.

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You will find a legal contract will have to be signed by each swiper, all will be in the contract, pages and pages of it, what you can or can't do or what they can do or apply, if you don't like it dont sign, if you do sign that becomes contract law

now to enforce the contract some of your own drivers will become the rank policemen, with the Airport pen pushers backing them up, these people, your workmates, then will be telling you, nope sorry old boy, but rules are rules, that tie is the wrong colour, go home and change it, next will be a letter to tell you that you fouled up the rules, next time your banned from the rank if it happens again


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your workmates, then will be telling you, nope sorry old boy, but rules are rules, that tie is the wrong colour, go home and change it, next will be a letter to tell you that you fouled up the rules, next time your banned from the rank if it happens again


Of course, with it being Liverpool, the 'shell suit' will replace the tie :wink:

(and that's a joke before I start being accused of being prejudiced.)

Good points though SP

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What surprises me is that one of the Liverpool fleet owners did not approach the airport and buy all the permits himself and simply have his own cab's on there,, mind you ,you never know..... :wink:

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Stinky Pete wrote:
You will find a legal contract will have to be signed by each swiper, all will be in the contract, pages and pages of it, what you can or can't do or what they can do or apply, if you don't like it dont sign, if you do sign that becomes contract law

now to enforce the contract some of your own drivers will become the rank policemen, with the Airport pen pushers backing them up, these people, your workmates, then will be telling you, nope sorry old boy, but rules are rules, that tie is the wrong colour, go home and change it, next will be a letter to tell you that you fouled up the rules, next time your banned from the rank if it happens again
I hope the seventy drivers at J L airport read your post Pete. regards streetcars.


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I take your point regarding the discipline of drivers, but I've been consistent on that, its not the airports job to control drivers, its the local authorities remit.


CC[/quote]Captain come off the fence, the very thing the drivers did not want, having to pander, to airport management, they will now have . In january a 86 bus is going to operate, round the clock at the airport . There are loads of other buses, that pick up at the airport. Buses pay FA. Taxis will have to fight with buses . handicaped with an extra pound on the fare befor they even start. Why is Peel holdings not charging buses 15 pounds, every time they leave the airport . Because money was only part of it . The airport management wanted to control the hackney drivers. It now looks like, they are going to get ,what they wanted. Regardes streetcars.


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If and its a big If 90% of the drivers were in the union and prepared to stand up, no prob Peel dont even dream of it.Whilst any workforce is not UNIONISED it will lose.Which is why fleet plate holders continously slate unions its called GREED.I think the hacks should tell all and sundry to stick their proposals up their HARRIS.Were you to stick together you cant lose. insist on meetings and a POSTAL BALLOT. Organise Against any union official who attempts to prevent such action. out with rule book and challenge his authority.BE LUCKY!
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A Meeting was held at Transport House before they called for the demonstration, I believe that their are about 100 that work the airport and that was the figure that attended the meeting, it is not surprising because the drivers that do not work the airport were not really bothered,, In my opinion what is happening is simply a damage limitation exercise, 8) :wink:

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