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So in the end which one is held to book if there is a problem with plod.
The Hire company, the hirer, or the driver...
as I said before it just side stepping the hire & reward regs.

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Round and round and round etc etc etc.

so which one is it Zebedee, Florence, or Dougal,

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Why should there be a problem as you described earlier.

If you are going to pay 80-90k or more for a vehicle, then expensive insurance etc, why would you send it out with bald tyres etc.
Look close at all forms of business, just because some firm(or person) is licensed in the "right" way does not guarantee they are operating safely,or even legally when it comes down to the nitty gritty.
There have been may instances of shady goings on in all countries of the world. There are times when people have to get together and force changes, most of which are common sense (whuch most rules and regs are not). When was the last time any real consultation was held between the various transport authorities and the people on the shop floor actually doing the job on a daily basis.
The so called loophole as discussed on this thread is nothing new and has been going on for years in the avis/hetrz etc minibus hire games.
The real big challenge on this is the private owned and run (not operated) "family" vehicle that is taking a number of kids to school every day with not checks whatsoever, a DIRECT challenge to taxi/ph work.

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You dont seem to grasp the nitty gritty..
Most people hiring these things are under the imprestion its hiring any normal private hire, they pay and hire etc, even when told you are self drive hire then you hire driver separatly etc,and sign the booking form they expect the same safe gaurds.But by being self drive hire they are then the opporator and any faults etc are down to them ( unkown to them).
You say who would pay 100k and then put out with a bald tyre.Well you can buy these 2nd hand for £30k, what ever the price most would have a big loan to service, and its things like tyres that get over looked when times are hard.Also by being self drive the driver comes form a driver pool or what ever scam they have come up with,who vets the drivers we all know drug dealers rapest , kidyfiddlers can hold these licences but who is policeing the said drivers.
The whole thimg is not regulated, and that cant be safe in todays world can it.

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The NLcA & ELA are voluentry organizations for the owners of the companies, the drivers on the drivers pools dont have to CRB checked , either way WHO IS REGULATING YOU >>>NO ONE
I am not saying there are any rapist etc , but who would know either way..
this is the whole point you are side slipping all the hire & reward regs.
and are all loose cannons.....you are not accountable to any one

The problem is that we should be speaking for the 'anyone else's' because they are using the same loophole.

Maybe the difference between the folks involved mainly in the taxi/PH trade and the folks in the limo trade is the support of the loophole.

About a year and a half ago some pillock from Nottingham (I think) decided he had found a loophole in the 1976 act which meant he didn't need to be licensed. Every single person on here, on similar taxi forums and in the taxi/PH press slagged him off for putting people's safety at risk.

It would appear in the Limo trade these type of people are treated as Kings.

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This is why the taxi/PH trade has joined to close one particular loophole, as of last Friday.

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/news/ ... harges.php

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IDFIMH

Sussex, do you not think that by fighting for one licence for all is trying to do somethig about this so called loop hole, we all fully admit its not great but its what puts food on the table and pays the bills and at present above all LEGAL, but i reiterate its not the best so we are trying to change it ourselves well before this discussion and well before anyone has tried to force us too, so you see we do want a new system and thats what we are fighting for, unlike your taxi friend who was forced in to compliance,This is indeed why we get so hacked off with you lot that constantly knock us, talk about pots and kettles, anyway as you well know Mr sussex i dont take any of this personally so although i address this to you please dont take it personally

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Loads a love from BERTIE !!

You justify yours selfs because you have spent £70 -£90 k on your motor
NOT GOOD ENOUGH im afaid

I wouldn't dream of ever taking it personally from you.

My point is that by using a loophole in existing legislation you (the limo trade) do yourself no favours.

But I would love to see the opinion the limo trade base their loophole on. I really have my doubts about that.

But have no doubts about taking legal risks with people's safety.

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Ideally the Government should bring in legislation designed specifically for vehicles that fit the category of limousines and similar types of vehicles including novelty vehicles, crazy fire engines and buses that operate as discos, etc. They could then have their own rules and regulations designed to service the customers they cater for.

VOSA and local licensing authorities might be much happier with such an arrangement.

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JD

I presume he was licensed and CRB checked, didn't do much good there.

Why is it I have had to have THREE separate CRB checks just because I live and work or the border of three authorities. They will all accept a licence from elsewhere (for cross border contracts) but will not accept CRB checks from adjoining authorities. Yet another complete cock up that lands at the door of the guy just trying to earn a living.

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