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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:39 am 
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A License in the area you wish to work then that license would last indefinitely or until such time it was deemed appropriate under the new act. Therefore there would be a one off payment.


I don't think any cab driver would disagree that license renewal each year is just a tax on cab drivers. There is no reason why a badge should be issued every year except as a revenue exercise. Councils have to raise this revenue on an annual basis to pay their staff, however a life long badge with perhaps a five or ten year photographic update is more realistic.

Control would consist of the usual two or three yearly crb check with a yearly sworn declaration posted to the licensing body.

Every driver license number would be flagged on the internet as either being active or inactive. Inactive could mean the license is revoked or suspended or anything else. It could be an offence to employ anyone with an inactive license which could result in the employer losing all their licenses. Anyone who works with an inactive license could also commit an offence.

Every vehicle owner wishing to employ someone on their vehicle would by law have to contact the licensing office to confirm the license is active, that would mean anyone with an inactive license would not be able to legally find employment as a cab driver until such time their license had become active.

Every owner submitting a vehicle for an MOT test would have to make a declaration on the form that they do not employ any driver with an inactive license. All vehicle owners who also have a drivers license would have to include their driver license number on the form so that it can be checked as being active. Any license not active for the purpose of being suspended or revoked would need to be verified as to whether the status had a category "A" flag which would disqualify the driver from licensing a vehicle or a category "B" flag which would exclude the driver from driving while allowing them to operate a vehicle.

Different colour license plates would be used each year to detect those who try to drive while disqualified.

Besides their photo ID badge a driver would also have their own unique ID which would by law have to be placed in the vehicle windscreen. This would contain the drivers number, the area they are allowed to work and the date the badge was issued and anything else of importance. Anyone without reasonable excuse not displaying the unique ID or the correct ID could be committing an offence.

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Which one of you wrote that $hit :roll:

Wake up, stay off the drugs and get a F**CKING grip.

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Admin and enforcement could be set up in a number of ways, the most logical would be to utilise existing infrastructure and staff complimented by an influx of new employees if needed. This brings into play the six regional traffic divisions.


I think most people are in favour of getting rid of councillors as regulators, after all, why do we need them? The ready made alternative is the existing structure of the Traffic Commissioners body. It already has the infrastructure and associated licensing enforcement and testing setup. It would be fairly straightforward to include Taxi licensing in that setup.

Does anyone disagree?

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Oh yes ..................... I do.

The extra burdens that will be placed upon the whole licensing community are something that would without any doubt lead to their detriment.


Well naturally you have a ready made list of extra burdens so enlighten us instead of pontificating.

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Some of you out there may wish to take note that the two previous posts from the member known only as JD quote the member known as JD and then back up and support a previous post by the member known as JD.

Seems to me that the collective known as the member JD is proving my own argument for me. Thanks very much lad.


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Admin and enforcement could be set up in a number of ways, the most logical would be to utilise existing infrastructure and staff complimented by an influx of new employees if needed. This brings into play the six regional traffic divisions.


I think most people are in favour of getting rid of councillors as regulators, after all, why do we need them? The ready made alternative is the existing structure of the Traffic Commissioners body. It already has the infrastructure and associated licensing enforcement and testing setup. It would be fairly straightforward to include Taxi licensing in that setup.

Does anyone disagree?

Regards

JD


Oh yes ..................... I do.

The extra burdens that will be placed upon the whole licensing community are something that would without any doubt lead to their detriment.


Well naturally you have a ready made list of extra burdens so enlighten us instead of pontificating.

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JD


Not ready made no ........................ but I can give you some off the top of my thick head.

Daily vehicle inspection records.

3 monthly vehicle testing.

Vehicle service history records.

Regulated driver hours.

Speed restrictors.

I fear if I go on you will lose the argument before you try.

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Some of you out there may wish to take note that the two previous posts from the member known only as JD quote the member known as JD and then back up and support a previous post by the member known as JD.

Seems to me that the collective known as the member JD is proving my own argument for me. Thanks very much lad.


B. Lucky :D


I think you made a slight mistake with the size of your text, I would amend it if I were you before the masses wake up and beat you over the head with a magnifying glass.

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Not ready made no ........................ but I can give you some off the top of my thick head.

Daily vehicle inspection records.

3 monthly vehicle testing.

Vehicle service history records.

Regulated driver hours.

Speed restrictors.

I fear if I go on you will lose the argument before you try.

B. Lucky :D


Not to give your thick head a larger headache than it already has but I suppose you've all ready written the new act and you expect us to be taken in by your wishful thinking.

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You do dream a lot. All far fetched

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Some of you out there may wish to take note that the two previous posts from the member known only as JD quote the member known as JD and then back up and support a previous post by the member known as JD.

Seems to me that the collective known as the member JD is proving my own argument for me. Thanks very much lad.


B. Lucky :D


I think you made a slight mistake with the size of your text, I would amend it if I were you before the masses wake up and beat you over the head with a magnifying glass.

Regards

JD


I'm following the principle of a Mr Robert Paisley who never shouted to get a message accross ................. he was of the opinion that if you spoke quietly then people would have to listen harder to what was being said and then they would understand it more, I'm just using text.

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Not ready made no ........................ but I can give you some off the top of my thick head.

Daily vehicle inspection records.

3 monthly vehicle testing.

Vehicle service history records.

Regulated driver hours.

Speed restrictors.

I fear if I go on you will lose the argument before you try.

B. Lucky :D


Not to give your thick head a larger headache than it already has but I suppose you've all ready written the new act and you expect us to be taken in by your wishful thinking.

Regards

JD

You do dream a lot. All far fetched


All things curently imposed by the TC though.

And I don't need to write a new act ................... its already in place in London.

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Some of you out there may wish to take note that the two previous posts from the member known only as JD quote the member known as JD and then back up and support a previous post by the member known as JD.

Seems to me that the collective known as the member JD is proving my own argument for me. Thanks very much lad.


B. Lucky :D


I think you made a slight mistake with the size of your text, I would amend it if I were you before the masses wake up and beat you over the head with a magnifying glass.

Regards

JD


I'm following the principle of a Mr Robert Paisley who never shouted to get a message accross ................. he was of the opinion that if you spoke quietly then people would have to listen harder to what was being said and then they would understand it more, I'm just using text.

B. Lucky :D


It might be advisable if you just talk normally, don't shout, don't be abusive and don't write text that strains the eyes, you might then find that people take you seriously.

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Some of you out there may wish to take note that the two previous posts from the member known only as JD quote the member known as JD and then back up and support a previous post by the member known as JD.

Seems to me that the collective known as the member JD is proving my own argument for me. Thanks very much lad.


B. Lucky :D


I think you made a slight mistake with the size of your text, I would amend it if I were you before the masses wake up and beat you over the head with a magnifying glass.

Regards

JD


I'm following the principle of a Mr Robert Paisley who never shouted to get a message accross ................. he was of the opinion that if you spoke quietly then people would have to listen harder to what was being said and then they would understand it more, I'm just using text.

B. Lucky :D


It might be advisable if you just talk normally, don't shout, don't be abusive and don't write text that strains the eyes, you might then find that people take you seriously.

Regards

JD


Thanks for that advice, I'll take it on board ............................ any chance of you either practicing what you preach, answering the questions or responding to the points raised.

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Thanks for that advice, I'll take it on board ............................ any chance of you either practicing what you preach, answering the questions or responding to the points raised.

B. Lucky :D


I always answer the points raised, if indeed they have a point and are not nonsensical repetitions of a redundant argument, which both you and MrT are famous for.

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Thanks for that advice, I'll take it on board ............................ any chance of you either practicing what you preach, answering the questions or responding to the points raised.

B. Lucky :D


I always answer the points raised, if indeed they have a point and are not nonsensical repetitions of a redundant argument, which both you and MrT are famous for.

Regards

JD


So is it the case that the TC undertake all of the things that I listed earlier.

Is there a possibility that under their own policies they would consider it best practice to apply the same structure to anything they have responsibility for.

You brought in the TC to the debate claiming it to be the institution that would solve the trades problems .............. I like many others have continually pointed out that taking the licensing function to the TC would have a far more detrimental effect on our working practices and finances.

It doesn't suit your ideal so it should be rubbished ................. and referances to other subjects and debates are only included by yourself to avoid answering questions anyone has the cheek to make.

You'll get wrong off the others for starting this ................... waiting for continued delay followed by IP change.

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And why exactly do private hire cars need a roof sign when they are pre-booked??

To ensure the correct customer gets into the correct licensed PH and not an un-licensed taxi. :wink:

Why PH/HC need proper signage

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Jurors were told Beal has a conviction for raping and indecently assaulting a woman in the city centre in 1996.


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And why exactly do private hire cars need a roof sign when they are pre-booked??

To ensure the correct customer gets into the correct licensed PH and not an un-licensed taxi. :wink:

Why PH/HC need proper signage
your argument is.... that if a convicted rapist was to drive a private hire car with a roof sign he would never attack a woman....... can't get my head round that one ..... :oops:

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