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Do you never learn, RAPE BOY?

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Obviously not BUM BOY.

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For someone who thinks "rape is reasonable" you're a bit of a slow learner. :roll: :D


I dont think rape is reasonable, but I think you and your gay lover are hiding behind all of this.

You'd get a little more respect if you just came out.

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Do you never learn, RAPE BOY?

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Obviously not BUM BOY.

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For someone who thinks "rape is reasonable" you're a bit of a slow learner. :roll: :D

No response to my post Skull or do you need time to think :lol: :lol:

Wayne(Captain Cab)
Bob mc culloch tells me you can drink like a fish?

Seriously though would you research an un bias opinion on the Medallion System in New York

I see that the Medallion system was brought in to control the profiteering and infiltraition by organised crime and a way to control/limit the number of licences tthrough cost

A real look at the Medallion system is needed so we can shape the future of restriction

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Wayne(Captain Cab)
Bob mc culloch tells me you can drink like a fish?

Seriously though would you research an un bias opinion on the Medallion System in New York

I see that the Medallion system was brought in to control the profiteering and infiltraition by organised crime and a way to control/limit the number of licences tthrough cost

A real look at the Medallion system is needed so we can shape the future of restriction


That's a novel opinion from someone who used to frequent the Redfern in Carlisle (thats Bob by the way).

If you ever get time to speak or text BBC radio 5 at about 1.30am on a Saturday night / Sunday morning there's a New York cab driver on there called Peter Franklin he's nicknamed 'the Gabby Cabby'.

I'm sure he'll tell you a lot of New York medallions are owned by rich widows who live in Florida.

Would you want Edinburgh's cabs to be owned by people who have never driven them or are purely bought as investments by people who maybe live in Eastbourne?

Further to the above, would you want Edinburgh council selling plates to the highest bidder due to a whole in their finances......from memory this happened in New York.

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captain cab wrote:
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Wayne(Captain Cab)
Bob mc culloch tells me you can drink like a fish?

Seriously though would you research an un bias opinion on the Medallion System in New York

I see that the Medallion system was brought in to control the profiteering and infiltraition by organised crime and a way to control/limit the number of licences tthrough cost

A real look at the Medallion system is needed so we can shape the future of restriction


That's a novel opinion from someone who used to frequent the Redfern in Carlisle (thats Bob by the way).

If you ever get time to speak or text BBC radio 5 at about 1.30am on a Saturday night / Sunday morning there's a New York cab driver on there called Peter Franklin he's nicknamed 'the Gabby Cabby'.

I'm sure he'll tell you a lot of New York medallions are owned by rich widows who live in Florida.

Would you want Edinburgh's cabs to be owned by people who have never driven them or are purely bought as investments by people who maybe live in Eastbourne?

Further to the above, would you want Edinburgh council selling plates to the highest bidder due to a whole in their finances......from memory this happened in New York.

CC

If it stops Skull and Taylor (Jasbar) then YES :D

The infiltraition by organised criminals and the abuse of the allocation procces is also a factor, profiteering at the expense of the individual must stop too

I don't think Edinburgh would have the same problem with old lady investors as the fact is there will never be 13,000 licences available in Edinburgh

I listen every week to him (Gabby Cabby) and he is a man of real knowledge, he has no problem with the medallion system

I think Edinburgh should profit from New Licence's, the Trade has went too far now, there should be no going back, money raised could go to providing a much better cab office and regulation of our capital cities Taxi service.

A lot of guy's have said the council should start at the £30,000 mark and if an old boy wants to retire then he can trade below the councils mark, if the council mark rises then so be it, this is what happened in New York

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Private Reggie wrote:
captain cab wrote:
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Wayne(Captain Cab)
Bob mc culloch tells me you can drink like a fish?

Seriously though would you research an un bias opinion on the Medallion System in New York

I see that the Medallion system was brought in to control the profiteering and infiltraition by organised crime and a way to control/limit the number of licences tthrough cost

A real look at the Medallion system is needed so we can shape the future of restriction


That's a novel opinion from someone who used to frequent the Redfern in Carlisle (thats Bob by the way).

If you ever get time to speak or text BBC radio 5 at about 1.30am on a Saturday night / Sunday morning there's a New York cab driver on there called Peter Franklin he's nicknamed 'the Gabby Cabby'.

I'm sure he'll tell you a lot of New York medallions are owned by rich widows who live in Florida.

Would you want Edinburgh's cabs to be owned by people who have never driven them or are purely bought as investments by people who maybe live in Eastbourne?

Further to the above, would you want Edinburgh council selling plates to the highest bidder due to a whole in their finances......from memory this happened in New York.

CC

If it stops Skull and Taylor (Jasbar) then YES :D

The infiltraition by organised criminals and the abuse of the allocation procces is also a factor, profiteering at the expense of the individual must stop too

I don't think Edinburgh would have the same problem with old lady investors as the fact is there will never be 13,000 licences available in Edinburgh

I listen every week to him (Gabby Cabby) and he is a man of real knowledge, he has no problem with the medallion system

I think Edinburgh should profit from New Licence's, the Trade has went too far now, there should be no going back, money raised could go to providing a much better cab office and regulation of our capital cities Taxi service.

A lot of guy's have said the council should start at the £30,000 mark and if an old boy wants to retire then he can trade below the councils mark, if the council mark rises then so be it, this is what happened in New York

Silence is Golden :D Skull, Jasbar and AliT :lol: :lol: :lol:

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you still haven't said how this will be done :oops:

if the will existed politically (and it doesn't)

and if your daft ideas ever went foreword

then they would have to go through a rather long laborious process to actually become law.

it would take many years.

and as their is no reason to change(as far as the courts ,politicizations,and legislators are concerned)
you don't seriously think legislation is going to be changed because you want to protect your own ass with your daft idea!do you????
it ain't never gonna happen.

if you know better then do tell
or you could just drop more :wink: :wink: :wink:

your becoming a bore Dougie,a moronic embarrassing bore :oops:


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Private Reggie wrote:
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Wayne(Captain Cab)
Bob mc culloch tells me you can drink like a fish?

Seriously though would you research an un bias opinion on the Medallion System in New York

I see that the Medallion system was brought in to control the profiteering and infiltraition by organised crime and a way to control/limit the number of licences tthrough cost

A real look at the Medallion system is needed so we can shape the future of restriction


That's a novel opinion from someone who used to frequent the Redfern in Carlisle (thats Bob by the way).

If you ever get time to speak or text BBC radio 5 at about 1.30am on a Saturday night / Sunday morning there's a New York cab driver on there called Peter Franklin he's nicknamed 'the Gabby Cabby'.

I'm sure he'll tell you a lot of New York medallions are owned by rich widows who live in Florida.

Would you want Edinburgh's cabs to be owned by people who have never driven them or are purely bought as investments by people who maybe live in Eastbourne?

Further to the above, would you want Edinburgh council selling plates to the highest bidder due to a whole in their finances......from memory this happened in New York.

CC

If it stops Skull and Taylor (Jasbar) then YES :D

The infiltraition by organised criminals and the abuse of the allocation procces is also a factor, profiteering at the expense of the individual must stop too

I don't think Edinburgh would have the same problem with old lady investors as the fact is there will never be 13,000 licences available in Edinburgh

I listen every week to him (Gabby Cabby) and he is a man of real knowledge, he has no problem with the medallion system

I think Edinburgh should profit from New Licence's, the Trade has went too far now, there should be no going back, money raised could go to providing a much better cab office and regulation of our capital cities Taxi service.

A lot of guy's have said the council should start at the £30,000 mark and if an old boy wants to retire then he can trade below the councils mark, if the council mark rises then so be it, this is what happened in New York


Silence is Golden :D Skull, Jasbar and AliT :lol: :lol: :lol:


Do you just dream these things up and then expect it to happen? You truly are a screwball of the highest order, Dougie. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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What's so complicated with a qualified driver having unfettered access to the tools of his trade?


So what would make a new driver qualified?

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captain cab wrote:
Skull wrote:
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Do you never learn, RAPE BOY?

:-|


Obviously not BUM BOY.

:roll:

CC



For someone who thinks "rape is reasonable" you're a bit of a slow learner. :roll: :D


I dont think rape is reasonable, but I think you and your gay lover are hiding behind all of this.

You'd get a little more respect if you just came out.

CC


Wayne Casey, you truly are an odious and disgusting person.

You think rape is reasonable, you insist on sexual epithets - You are so fixated with sex I suggest you represent a real danger to the public.

How come you never matured?

DSo your wife and kids know you write this shecht?

Or are you still in the closet?



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What's so complicated with a qualified driver having unfettered access to the tools of his trade?


So what would make a new driver qualified?


Quality controls designed to ensure that the trade's professionalism is invested in the driver.

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Wayne Casey, you truly are an odious and disgusting person.

You think rape is reasonable, you insist on sexual epithets - You are so fixated with sex I suggest you represent a real danger to the public.

How come you never matured?

DSo your wife and kids know you write this shecht?

Or are you still in the closet?



:roll:


I'm quite mature thank you, and mature enough to see through you.

You are using rape to further your aims, thats truly disgusting.

You and your lover are the ones who mention rape at every possible opportunity, I think you are the one with a fixation and seriously wonder about your mental state.

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If it stops Skull and Taylor (Jasbar) then YES :D

The infiltraition by organised criminals and the abuse of the allocation procces is also a factor, profiteering at the expense of the individual must stop too

I don't think Edinburgh would have the same problem with old lady investors as the fact is there will never be 13,000 licences available in Edinburgh

I listen every week to him (Gabby Cabby) and he is a man of real knowledge, he has no problem with the medallion system

I think Edinburgh should profit from New Licence's, the Trade has went too far now, there should be no going back, money raised could go to providing a much better cab office and regulation of our capital cities Taxi service.

A lot of guy's have said the council should start at the £30,000 mark and if an old boy wants to retire then he can trade below the councils mark, if the council mark rises then so be it, this is what happened in New York


I wish Taylor, Thompson and Turnbull would be quiet when the adults are talking.

I think you'll find Frankin's view has something to do with his family garage and the fact they own a number of medallions.

A number of years ago I offered the view that the UK should have a medallion system, the current system is open to as much abuse as the New York model, with councils having to defend numbers policies and carpetbaggers challenging, getting the plate then selling.

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Medallions are put up for Auction whenever New York's local authority need money for community projects, the Trade in New York is at it's Limit with numbers, cost keeps the trade restricted, no profiteering or infiltration in New York the local Authority have control through cost.


In fact I think Mr Casey is a bit closer to the truth than your own portrayal.

As I recall it the number of medallions/plates had been static since around the second world war and they were trading at up to half a million dollars each.

New York city was broke, so the Mayor (who I think was billionare Michael Bloomberg) thought it would be a good idea to raise money for city coffers by issuing a few more plates, taking care, of course, that their value wasn't overly diluted by issuing too many.

Thus in essence it's no different from Edinburgh, except that there could be no windfall profit from the new issues, but the vast majority of medallions were issued for 'free' initially, and both they and the new issues continued to increase in value, so licence holders could still profiteer.

There are probably a couple of reasons for the perhaps greater propensity for absentees (eg the rich widows) to hold medallions in New York as compared to the plates here.

First, the market in medallions is more legitimate and indeed they're often portrayed as an investment like stocks and shares, gilts, metals and other commodities. Compare that to the grey market (at best) in Scottish plates, and the fact that derestriction is more of a risk and thus it's more like a junk bond than a gilt-edged security.

Second, as compared to the more legitimate market in plates in England, I think the medallion can be held without operating a vehicle, thus encouraging outsiders.

Of course, there's nothing to stop absentees in the UK since even though they may operate a vehicle their connection with the trade can be tenuous at best (they could live abroad, for example) and there's certainly no obligation to actually drive a taxi, and there's always the more illegitimate aspects of the UK market to consider, such as the illegally hired plates in York and elsewhere.

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In fact I think Mr Casey is a bit closer to the truth than your own portrayal.

As I recall it the number of medallions/plates had been static since around the second world war and they were trading at up to half a million dollars each.

New York city was broke, so the Mayor (who I think was billionare Michael Bloomberg) thought it would be a good idea to raise money for city coffers by issuing a few more plates, taking care, of course, that their value wasn't overly diluted by issuing too many.

Thus in essence it's no different from Edinburgh, except that there could be no windfall profit from the new issues, but the vast majority of medallions were issued for 'free' initially, and both they and the new issues continued to increase in value, so licence holders could still profiteer.

There are probably a couple of reasons for the perhaps greater propensity for absentees (eg the rich widows) to hold medallions in New York as compared to the plates here.

First, the market in medallions is more legitimate and indeed they're often portrayed as an investment like stocks and shares, gilts, metals and other commodities. Compare that to the grey market (at best) in Scottish plates, and the fact that derestriction is more of a risk and thus it's more like a junk bond than a gilt-edged security.

Second, as compared to the more legitimate market in plates in England, I think the medallion can be held without operating a vehicle, thus encouraging outsiders.

Of course, there's nothing to stop absentees in the UK since even though they may operate a vehicle their connection with the trade can be tenuous at best (they could live abroad, for example) and there's certainly no obligation to actually drive a taxi, and there's always the more illegitimate aspects of the UK market to consider, such as the illegally hired plates in York and elsewhere.


I think thats an excellent summary.

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What's so complicated with a qualified driver having unfettered access to the tools of his trade?


So what would make a new driver qualified?


Quality controls designed to ensure that the trade's professionalism is invested in the driver.

:roll:


Yeah, but what type of quality controls. I ask cos I think these need to at least be a thought before you de-restrict

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