Taxi Driver Online

Of course people get barred, but those behind TDO don't spend half their life debating the pros and cons of those that have departed.

Leave that to the other forums to do.

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IDFIMH

There is nothing stopping anyone starting up a donate pay-pal account.

I'm quite sure admin on here wouldn't object to it being promoted on TDO.

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IDFIMH

Graham would be turning in his grave.... if he knew you had admitted that....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

The turning will only stop when Sefton delimit.

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IDFIMH

Strange, I thought Skull wasn't driving a taxi today because he refused to say anything. We have yet to see exactly what that action has achieved

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

What would you like to see it achieve, Toots?

See if you can answer the question directly, but remember that a simple allegation alone has been used to "suspend" a taxi driver licence, (forget about me, for the moment) it could be anyone.

I don't play what if. It is about you and there is no changing that. It's not about what I want it is about what it has achieved so far

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

Toots, my licence has been "suspended" (past tense) it's now about (future tense) you.

What would you like to see it achieve, Toots?

It's now your turn. Someone makes a malicious allegation against you?


Well, Toots?

You're asking me what I would like to see you're silence achieve? I wouldn't like it to achieve anything. I would like to see you or any other driver, for that matter, answer the complaint. If you believe the procedure is not followed or is not lawful than something needs to be done to rectify the said procedure. I don't believe that making yourself a martyr to the cause will help anybody else, nor will it change the said procedure.

If somebody made a malicious allegation against me I would answer the said allegation, but, not with silence. That's a mighty big if tho

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

I could not prove my innocence any more than my accuser or the council could prove my guilt. I stated that I did nothing wrong, and that I would not speak to the allegation further. There was no credible evidence of any kind only one mans allegation alone. The council did not establish my guilt to any degree. They simply chose to believe what they wanted to believe. Speaking to the allegation would have made no difference whatsoever.

My case only proves one thing, that as a taxi driver you have no rights or protections under the law.

btw, everything this individual said was a complete fabrication and I know why.

I admire your blind faith in the system.

You see. Your premise is that those taking the decisions are reasonable people.

Thing is we know they are scum.

You seem to be under the belief that the process works, that you go before the committee to be heard, and the decision will be based on that.

We know that there is nothing that happens in the public part of committee proceedings that hasn't been pre-determined.

What part of we are thieir political opponents don't you understand. Or that we have severely embarrassed them and they were using this exercise to punish Skull from the outset.

You talk about procedures. Then get this.

1. The council's own procedures clearly state that they receive the complaint directly. A civil matter.

2. Their procedures then state they write to the licence holder to get his side of the story. Here, they didn't.

3. Procedures clearly state that the complaint is THEN referred to the Cab Inspector, to see "if the police should be involved".

4. The Cab Inspector is a cop. His authority is based purely in criminal matters. He has NO authority to deal with civil matters. He is not authorised, under their own procedures and those of the Police themselves, to make a civil complaint aboutr a licence holder. The Council Solicitor has told us the council gives the Cab Inspector NO guidelines in handling complaints.

5. License holders are given no guidelines as to how their rights are protected in this process.

6. There are no clear rules of process, the council makes it up as it goes along (they changed procedures to deal with the Skull) it is therefore impossible for them to treat everyone the same, there is no Equality before the Law, a fundamental right.

7. Licence holders are given no guidleines as to the authorities enjoyed by authorised fficers. We do know that the cops as a matterof course will not get involved in civil matters, so why here?

8. The allegation was just that. Purely allegation. It was not substantiated, legally it didn't happen. How can any licence condiction be breached based on an incident that didn't happen?

9. The CI not having any right to become involved in civil matters, how can any licnce condition be breached by not speaking to him about a civil complaint?

So, Toots, explain how you would prostrate yourself before a council determined to dig you out, and spill your gutrs and hope that you are not going to be stiffed by power crazed butchers, bakers an candlestick makers intoxicated by the power they wield?

CEC didn't adopt even its own procedures. Those it did are not fit for purpose and do not conform with even the basics of Human Rights.

They do what they do because those like you allow them to. All over the country cabbies are being stiffed because e do nothing, because we don't believe it can't happen to us.

But it can. And it will.

BTW I certainly wouldn't refuse to engage the process either. I would happily sit in front of Frank Smith and remind him that he is a fascist scumbag. And I would be saying precisely the same to the scurrilous scumbags on the committee. I would be inviting the press and the public to come along and witness it.

Our local authorities have become little more than bastions of power for incompetents who are driving our civic structure into the mire. And we're all paying the price.

In my opinion the only thing your case proves is that if you don't turn up to answer the allegation the council will do as they please. As I stated if you had followed the procedure you'd have had a better arguement if it wasn't followed properly by the council. That's only my opinion and you of course are entitled to your own beliefs. How you can say it would not have made any difference whatsoever is beyond me though, because had you spoken up and they had done the same thing you would have had a stronger grievance against them if they indeed did not followed their own procedure

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

So in your mind at least, I have no presumption of innocence, which makes it incumbent upon me to prove my innocence when faced with an allegation. And by speaking to the said allegations would have made a difference, irrespective of the fact that no one could prove what they were saying was, in fact, true. And no way for the council to know who was telling the truth.





You are a fecking head case.

Of course you are innocent til proven guilty but you've gotta be there to ensure the procedure is followed and that you're not found guilty by default.

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

"guilt by default" the presumption of innocence, no proof but "guilt by default" because I never turned up.