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Mr T doesn't realise that every licensing authority in the country is equal in nature with regards to licensed hackney carriage and private hire drivers. However he seems to think that Liverpool have extra powers that we obviously don't know about and he does. Just for the benefit of Mr T and any representative of his association namely the NTA or any other association in the UK here is the section that empowers a council to suspend or revoke a license.

61 Suspension and revocation of drivers' licences (1) Notwithstanding anything in the Act of 1847 or in this Part of this Act, a district council may suspend or revoke or (on application therefore under section 46 of the Act of 1847 or section 51 of this Act, as the case may be) refuse to renew the licence of a driver of a hackney carriage or a private hire vehicle on any of the following grounds—

(a) that he has since the grant of the licence—

(i) been convicted of an offence involving dishonesty, indecency or violence; or

(ii) been convicted of an offence under or has failed to comply with the provisions of the Act of 1847 or of this Part of this Act; or

**(b) any other reasonable cause. **

(2)

(a) Where a district council suspend, revoke or refuse to renew any licence under this section they shall give to the driver notice of the grounds on which the licence has been suspended or revoked or on which they have refused to renew such licence within fourteen days of such suspension, revocation or refusal and the driver shall on demand return to the district council the driver's badge issued to him in accordance with section 54 of this Act.

(b) If any person without reasonable excuse contravenes the provisions of this section he shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding [level 1 on the standard scale].

(3) Any driver aggrieved by a decision of a district council under this section may appeal to a magistrates' court.
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Regards

JD

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Again you haven't answered the question
Does the passenger complain to Liverpool or Sefton

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Yes JD we know you're very good at cutting and pasting.... But you're not answering the question..

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

JD. I am only asking questions you're the one that knows everything

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Mr T, you come out with an absurd question which no one in their right mind would even think of asking?

You asked who does a passenger complain to if they feel aggrieved at the licensed private hire driver who transported them from A to B?

Everyone on here already knows the answer to that question but it seems you, are somewhat confused? Why I don't know but to put you out of your misery, a customer would have two avenues of complaint open to them, one would be to contact the appropriate person at the firm where they made the booking and second they could contact the licensing department where the driver is licensed.

I hope that puts you out of your misery for a short while so will you now please answer the points you raised albeit traversed 360 degrees by me which had the effect of knocking the wind right out of your sails.

As per usual I doubt very much we will see an answer because the points I raised were far too sharp for your somewhat misguided contribution.

Regards

JD

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I think Sussex and everyone is well aware of the "post code" insurance lottery and the fact that individual driving frailties play a major part in determining the premiums of a prospective customer, however I suspect his comments were aimed at like for like and under those circumstances there is no reason why insurance premiums should be any higher in Liverpool than Sefton unless Liverpool is classed as a war zone?



We can take that as Gospel can we? I presume you got that straight from the horses mouth or do you have a different source that you prefer not to name? If that be the case then taxi insurance companies must view Liverpool as a high risk area and no doubt other areas of high or even higher risk will pay a similar premium to Liverpool if not more? Therefore one assumes that there will be Taxi areas in the UK that are far more dangerous than Liverpool which in turn would make taxi driver premiums higher than those in Liverpool?

Perhaps sometime in the future we can get a comment from one of these insurance companies substantiating your comments? However as I previously said, "under your formula there are areas in the UK with far higher premiums than Liverpool".



Can you explain a Government subsidised private hire company or is it just the fact that LTI vehicles are over priced and less economical to run, which in turn means drivers are handicapped by having no choice of vehicle running costs?

I seem to recall it was the Liverpool T&G who fought tooth and nail to exclude all vehicles from being a hackney carriage that didn't comply with the outdated turning circle condition. Therefore Liverpool cab drivers can't really argue their corner on economics because they desired to exclude vehicles that would make them competitive. They could also remedy the situation at a stroke, if they so desired?

Any other non points you wish to raise?

Regards

JD

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With comments like this we can see why you are top of the tree in the Sefton hackney carriage trade and also why you are a trusted confidant of the "meeting of minds" bunch.

Do you think Messrs Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum will publish your incorrect comments in the next issue of Taxitalk magazine?

Regards

JD

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Well that's very kind of you but I can assure you that I don't know everything and have never professed to doing so but what little knowledge I do have I tend to share with with everyone rather than play silly games whereby people think they are clever fackers by keeping those less able continually uninformed.

That's why TDO is the trailblazer in open access because if it wasn't for this website you and every other Tom, Dick and Harry would be a lot less wiser when it comes Taxi licensing legislation and case law.

Regards

JD

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I shouldn't need to point out the law to a person such as yourself but when you make ridiculous comments like the ones in this thread then there comes a time when you have to be spoon fed the legislation as it applies. The only way that can be done is by exposing your nonsensical argument by publishing the legislation. It is not a case of cutting and pasting it is a case of exposing your bogus argument.

Regards

JD

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Perhaps Mr T is unaware of what the Sefton conditions for private hire drivers say? Perhaps we should remind him? I suggest he takes particular note of the item in the very first condition which I highlighted.

At the end of these conditions it gives the councils stated policy of any breach. I'm sure Mr T will be only too willing to post their stated policy but if he fails to do so then I will do it for him.
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SEFTON, MBC PRIVATE HIRE DRIVERS' LICENCE CONDITIONS

I) CONDUCT: The dliver shall:

**a) At all times be clean and respectable in their dress & person & behave in a civil & orderly manner. **

b) take all reasonable steps to ensure the safety of passengers conveyed in. entering or alighting from the vehicle driven by them:

c) Not without the express permission of the hirer, smoke, eat or drink in the vehicle:

d) Not without the express consent of the hirer. play any radio or sound-reproducing equipment in their vehicle other than for the purpose of sending or receiving messages in connection with the operation of the vehicle,

e) At no time cause or permit the sound emitted from any radio/sound reproducing equipment in the vehicle which they are driving to be an annoyance/nuisance to any person, whether inside or outside the vehicle:

f) When requested to do so by a passenger, convey a reasonable quantity of luggage:

g) Afford reasonable assistance in loading & unloading the said luggage:

h) Afford reasonable assistance in removing said luggage from any house. railway station or place at which they may pick up or set down such persons.
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I think we all understand except you and some Liverpool hackney carriage drivers that private hire operators have a right to compete for customers no matter where those customers might be? It would appear to some that the word competition should be removed from the English dictionary when used in Liverpool.

Regards

JD

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Confused are we?

A licensed Sefton driver does not stop being a licensed Sefton driver when they undertake a private hiring in a place other than the one they are licensed.

Everyone knows that, except you, which not only surprises me but it might also surprise everyone else reading this thread.

I would stop shovelling any more nonsense on this issue before your credibility seeks to an all time low.

Regards

JD

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is that a serious comment? "typical liverpool" how can you typify 100s of thousands of people do you think all blacks are criminals and muslims are terrorists aswel.. you need to stop reading the daily mail mate.. its turned you into an ignorant nob job

I think Sussex is referring to the Liverpool taxi trade not Liverpudlians as a whole?

Regards

JD

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