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Any agenda I may have is a consequence of critical free thinking.


You haven't got the morals for 'free' critical thinking. You have an agenda i.e de-restriction which blinds you to accurate critical thinking. You are as selfish as you accuse others to be when you spout you're sh*te. If you were effective with critical thinking you would be able to communicate effectively with others in figuring out solutions to complex problems. The person you can communicate with effectively is Jasbar and he's examined the evidence as much as you have

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The taxi forum dont seem to like carpetbaggers.

The seem to call jaspar aka James Barclay Taylor 'mad jim'.....those guys are a hoot. :D

that guy torn casualty....now he's a total hoot;

Well as Skull and Jimbob have said in the past - the lack of denial means it must be true.

Has mad jim moved house?

Does anyone care?

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Has Madjim moved house?

Rumour has it Gary sits on top of Jims chrimbo tree :lol:

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Rumour has it that women being raped because they can't hail a taxi, is okay with you CC. As long as the council has carried out a survey that is. :shock: :D

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Rumour has it that women being raped because they can't hail a taxi, is okay with you CC. As long as the council has carried out a survey that is. :shock: :D


Are woman being raped because of that?

Have you any proof?

Have you any proof that a person is less likely to be raped in say London which as you know is delimited than Edinburgh?

I'll leave it with you as long as you like.

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Rumour has it that women being raped because they can't hail a taxi, is okay with you CC. As long as the council has carried out a survey that is. :shock: :D


Are woman being raped because of that?

Have you any proof?

Have you any proof that a person is less likely to be raped in say London which as you know is delimited than Edinburgh?

I'll leave it with you as long as you like.

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As a self proclaimed critical thinker that will involve him examining ALL the evidence so be prepared for a long wait :wink:

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The council has a responsibility to discharge its public duties, in this case, putting the safety of vulnerable females before that of vested interests.

All we claimed was that females were being put at risk as a consequence of the council restricting and refusing taxi licences.



TAXI AND PRIVATE HIRE CAR LICENSING
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9. For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions, then that person’s safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver
illegally plying for hire.

Now, if my memory serves me correctly, one wee lassie was raped, the other suffered a serious assault. In exactly the circumstances alluded to here.

But you think "rape is reasonable" as long as the council carried out a survey :roll:

It's the RISK factor which is unacceptable CC, and that's all you should be concerning yourself with, not daft wee surveys.
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Skull wrote:
The council has a responsibility to discharge its public duties, in this case, putting the safety of vulnerable females before that of vested interests.

All we claimed was that females were being put at risk as a consequence of the council restricting and refusing taxi licences.



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9. For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions, then that person’s safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver
illegally plying for hire.

Now, if my memory serves me correctly, one wee lassie was raped, the other suffered a serious assault. In exactly the circumstances alluded to here.

But you think "rape is reasonable" as long as the council carried out a survey :roll:

It's the RISK factor which is unacceptable CC, and that's all you should be concerning yourself with, not daft wee surveys.
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Oh look you didn't bother to examine ALL the evidence again :roll:

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Yes skull, you omit the legend;

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Here we simply advise



That aside, the English version says lots of things that councils dont do either, such as colour policies, number of testing stations, signage, environmental considerations.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't Scottish best practice state;

The Scottish Government takes the view that decisions as to the case for limiting taxi licences should remain a matter for licensing authorities in the light of local circumstances. However, licensing authorities who presently restrict numbers of taxi licences should periodically review this policy.

If that's right, have you been b*llshitting about Scottish BPG?

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The council has a responsibility to discharge its public duties, in this case, putting the safety of vulnerable females before that of vested interests.

All we claimed was that females were being put at risk as a consequence of the council restricting and refusing taxi licences.



TAXI AND PRIVATE HIRE CAR LICENSING
BEST PRACTICE FOR
LICENSING AUTHORITIES 2007


9. For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions, then that person’s safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver
illegally plying for hire.

Now, if my memory serves me correctly, one wee lassie was raped, the other suffered a serious assault. In exactly the circumstances alluded to here.

But you think "rape is reasonable" as long as the council carried out a survey :roll:

It's the RISK factor which is unacceptable CC, and that's all you should be concerning yourself with, not daft wee surveys.
:roll:


Oh look you didn't bother to examine ALL the evidence again :roll:


What do you want, a murder?


Two wee lassies, one raped by a private hire operator picking up off the street, and one sexually assaulted by a pervert masquerading as a Ph, both females in similar circumstances having difficulty hailing a taxi.

"All the evidence" of a RISK to young women is right under your nose.

Try having some respect for yourself Toots, don't say any more. :roll:

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What do you want, a murder?



Of course not, your suicide will do :lol:

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Yes skull, you omit the legend;

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Here we simply advise



That aside, the English version says lots of things that councils dont do either, such as colour policies, number of testing stations, signage, environmental considerations.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't Scottish best practice state;

The Scottish Government takes the view that decisions as to the case for limiting taxi licences should remain a matter for licensing authorities in the light of local circumstances. However, licensing authorities who presently restrict numbers of taxi licences should periodically review this policy.

If that's right, have you been b*llshitting about Scottish BPG?

CC


So you stand by your assertion that “rape is reasonable” as long as the council carried out a survey. :-|

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Yes skull, you omit the legend;

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Here we simply advise



That aside, the English version says lots of things that councils dont do either, such as colour policies, number of testing stations, signage, environmental considerations.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't Scottish best practice state;

The Scottish Government takes the view that decisions as to the case for limiting taxi licences should remain a matter for licensing authorities in the light of local circumstances. However, licensing authorities who presently restrict numbers of taxi licences should periodically review this policy.

If that's right, have you been b*llshitting about Scottish BPG?

CC


So you stand by your assertion that “rape is reasonable” as long as the council carried out a survey. :-|


I never said rape was reasonable.

Are you telling us you were telling lies about what the scottish best practice guidance says?

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What do you want, a murder?


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"All the evidence" of a RISK to young women is right under your nose.


Me thinks you're not being very rational here you only appear to be concentrating on one aspect of a risk and apparently only one risk. To be a critical thinker you need to gather and evaluate all of the evidence without prejudice.

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Try having some respect for yourself Toots, don't say any more.


I have plenty of respect for myself and so do lots of other people I know. I will say what I want if I want to. Now go get a cuddle of your boyfriend that'll make you feel better :wink:

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"All the evidence" of a RISK to young women is right under your nose.


Me thinks you're not being very rational here you only appear to be concentrating on one aspect of a risk and apparently only one risk. To be a critical thinker you need to gather and evaluate all of the evidence without prejudice.



Two questions:

Do you accept that a shortage of taxis leads to illegal plying by uninsured PH/ out of area taxis and by unlicenced scumbags?

Do you accept that accepting such a lift is more of a risk to someone's personal safety than hailing a properly licensed and insured taxi?

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What do you want, a murder?


That would depend

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"All the evidence" of a RISK to young women is right under your nose.


Me thinks you're not being very rational here you only appear to be concentrating on one aspect of a risk and apparently only one risk. To be a critical thinker you need to gather and evaluate all of the evidence without prejudice.

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Try having some respect for yourself Toots, don't say any more.


I have plenty of respect for myself and so do lots of other people I know. I will say what I want if I want to. Now go get a cuddle of your boyfriend that'll make you feel better :wink:


Toots, I drive a taxi, and I witness ranks bursting at th seems almost every Friday and Saturday night. I watch Ph from all over the city and beyond, picking up off the streets. I pick up people regularly who have difficulty hailing a cab, including scantily dressed young females. I don't have to imagine the risk to women, especially when under the influence of drugs and alcohol. It is there for all to see. You only have to look.

The risk to young women walking the streets desperate to find a taxi is real. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise, is an ar*e :roll:

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"All the evidence" of a RISK to young women is right under your nose.


Me thinks you're not being very rational here you only appear to be concentrating on one aspect of a risk and apparently only one risk. To be a critical thinker you need to gather and evaluate all of the evidence without prejudice.



Two questions:

Do you accept that a shortage of taxis leads to illegal plying by uninsured PH/ out of area taxis and by unlicenced scumbags?

Do you accept that accepting such a lift is more of a risk to someone's personal safety than hailing a properly licensed and insured taxi?


1. No I don't. There are several reasons why ph ply and the main one is lack of work from the system they work from. The other is greed. It matters not if an area is de-restricted this will continue as it does in all the other de-restricted areas. Uninsured ph/out of area taxis still operate in de-restricted areas and with more vehicles on the road they are less likely to be spotted

2. Again it's not necessarily the case a greater risk other than from an insurance/rip off point of view. It is however extremely stupid to get into a vehicle that is neither licensed nor it's driver licensed by any authority. That is the genuine risk and it's my belief that it's not prevented in a de-restricted area as it continues happen in these areas. Good enforcement will help prevent some of this. As will education of the public with regard to the danger of getting into a vehicle that's not licensed

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