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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:59 am 
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Needless to say JD.... or whoever you are.......A. version will be presented on TDO.... factional I think not.... fictional it certainly will be..... reds under the bed.....

But at least folks will be able to judge for themselves.

I think it is simply pathetic for the only so-called journalist invited to report, on the MoM meetings, to report f*** all about the MoM meetings.

Maybe what the gutless c*** really wanted to say was that he is upset the GMB have published what he should have in his rag. :-$

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Come on Sussex ................ stop beating around the bush .................. just come right out and say whats on your mind. :lol:

I don't think that anyone disagrees with the principles behind the MOM.

The problem is that some peoples ego's won't allow them to accept the validity of questions raised or statements made because of the person who makes them rather than the quality of the content.

The one-up-manship certain members seek when disussing groups or representatives is to the detriment of the whole trade ........................ why can no-one see that.

Still, if everything was debated away from behind a computer screen by a growing number of people a lot would be achieved ........................ hang on ........................ I've just seen where the real problem with the MOM is :shock: :shock: :shock:

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The one-up-manship certain members seek when disussing groups or representatives is to the detriment of the whole trade ........................ why can no-one see that.

Still, if everything was debated away from behind a computer screen by a growing number of people a lot would be achieved ........................ hang on ........................ I've just seen where the real problem with the MOM is :shock: :shock: :shock:

I understand what you are saying, and yes one-up-manship is a bloody big part of this trade, but if some people have a view then why hide it?

The only reason I can think of as to why folks want to keep everything quiet is because they want a done deal before the deal is done. [-X

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I have just received my copy of PHM, and grateful as I am to receive it, I can't find any reference to the MoM meetings.

How very strange. :?

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JD.... back-to-front as usual.... it's your job to prove you're right....... why would I want to get into a long-winded argument based on your fairy tales.....You remind me of a magistrate I once knew :lol:

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.....You remind me of a magistrate I once knew :lol:
Did he find you guilty? :lol:

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.....You remind me of a magistrate I once knew :lol:
Did he find you guilty? :lol:

He found everyone guilty :oops: But the best bit was when he got five years.... it seems he had his own agenda

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JD.... back-to-front as usual.... it's your job to prove you're right


It seems rather odd that you make a statement alleging that I will present a version of the facts relating to the consequences of the meeting of minds proposals, which will be fictional but when you, Taxitalk, NPHA were given the opportunity to present your own facts relating to the subject you run and hide. I've already proven I'm right in everything I've said which is on record on this site. You haven't challenged it because you know it is correct.

I suppose you can't hide the truth but if it wasn't for the GMBPDB and this website the taxi trade would never have gotten sight of the truth.

You were offered the option to either pizz or get off the pot, obviously you decided that under the circumstances the latter course of action was the least ignominious.

Having no foundation to argue your point I'm not surprised you vacated the throne but we are still wondering why you and your mates don't have the balls to publicly tell the taxi trade how you are trying to stitch them up simply because you don't like hackney carriage vehicles from Berwick operating as private hire vehicles in Newcastle.

Your silence on presenting the facts along with all these so called trade magazines will certainly be noted by every taxi driver in UK.

What are you going to say when a cab driver asks you the the sixty four thousand dollar question of, "what do these changes mean for me Mr T"? I suppose you will say one of two things, either "I don't know" or "I can't tell you".

That about sums up both you and the meeting of mindless bunch.

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What exactly have the MOM group actually proposed to government?
I'm not interested in anyone's opinions on what they think the MOM group may propose, I only want to know -

What exactly have the MOM group actually proposed to government?

The thing is that there just seems to be a campaign to hide the truth, and the GMBPDB are not without blame as the leadership has not consulted their membership on IF they should be represented within the MOM group, they have just took it upon themselves to attend and then publish the minutes publically in some childish effort to discredit other member unions and associations of the group.

It is highly unprofessional, and because of that be to the detriment of section of the union.

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What exactly have the MOM group actually proposed to government?
I'm not interested in anyone's opinions on what they think the MOM group may propose, I only want to know -

What exactly have the MOM group actually proposed to government?

Open your bloody eyes and read!!!

The letter written by the representative of NALEO would have been sent to the DfT, on all of our behalves if you please, but for the fact that some trade representatives indicated they needed to consult their colleagues.

Not all, just some, as most decided they speak for all their members whether those member like it or not.

And the proposals are on the TDO pdf if you care to read them. :roll:

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GA wrote:
The thing is that there just seems to be a campaign to hide the truth, and the GMBPDB are not without blame as the leadership has not consulted their membership on IF they should be represented within the MOM group, they have just took it upon themselves to attend and then publish the minutes publically in some childish effort to discredit other member unions and associations of the group.

I think you can call or say many things about the GMB PDB, but accusing them of trying to hide the truth is stupid.

Instead of having a pop at the GMB PDB for publishing the minutes, why don't you ask the T&G, the NTA, the NPHA, the NGGT or whatever they are called today, and the editor of Taxi'talk' what he/they have got to hide.

Other than they are way out of their depth, and NALEO are using them as stooges.

I would have thought even you would have seen that. :roll: :roll:

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GA wrote:
The thing is that there just seems to be a campaign to hide the truth, and the GMBPDB are not without blame as the leadership has not consulted their membership on IF they should be represented within the MOM group, they have just took it upon themselves to attend and then publish the minutes publically in some childish effort to discredit other member unions and associations of the group.

I think you can call or say many things about the GMB PDB, but accusing them of trying to hide the truth is stupid.

Instead of having a pop at the GMB PDB for publishing the minutes, why don't you ask the T&G, the NTA, the NPHA, the NGGT or whatever they are called today, and the editor of Taxi'talk' what he/they have got to hide.

Other than they are way out of their depth, and NALEO are using them as stooges.

I would have thought even you would have seen that. :roll: :roll:


Like a knight in shining armour the GMBPDB walk into a meeting and then publish the minutes not to their members .................. but to the small online "community" which is TDO.

They did not leave the meeting to consult with their members and obtain a mandate to take the action that they did ................. as the other groups did ............... and surely you cannot condone that from a representative organisation.

It has also come to light that not all the groups were present at the last meeting ................. so how can an agreement be made and actioned.

The agenda that needs to be questioned is not that of the MOM group but that of those who are intent of destroying it.

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Sussex wrote:
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What exactly have the MOM group actually proposed to government?
I'm not interested in anyone's opinions on what they think the MOM group may propose, I only want to know -

What exactly have the MOM group actually proposed to government?

Open your bloody eyes and read!!!

The letter written by the representative of NALEO would have been sent to the DfT, on all of our behalves if you please, but for the fact that some trade representatives indicated they needed to consult their colleagues.

Not all, just some, as most decided they speak for all their members whether those member like it or not.

And the proposals are on the TDO pdf if you care to read them. :roll:


Is the answer that your offering us that a letter would .......... thats right WOULD ......... have been sent BUT for the fact that some trade representatives needed to consult with their membership.

So the answer to my question is that the MOM group has sent NOTHING to the DfT ..................... strange then that the GMBPDB sent a letter to the DfT dis-associating itself from a letter that hadn't even been sent.

The representatives that needed to consult with their members were the GMB, NTA,T&G, NPHA and NATLEO ............... in short all the representative groups.

The proposals may well be written in a pdf file on this site ............... but that is as far as they have been published.

I will simplify the question and put it in two parts to see if you have any intention during this debate to be honest -

1. Has the MOM group sent the proposals to the DfT as published on this site?

2. Has the GMBPDB sent a letter to the DfT dis-associating themselves from the proposals of the MOM group as published on this site?

Even with my eyes shut my little southern softy mate ................. I can see that this whole MOM group is in some way a threat to you or to people you associate with .................. and you know I won't stop digging :shock:

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Who decided to call it, the "Meeting of Minds"?


Just curious :)

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I hate to be presumptuous, but feck me, the “Meeting of Minds” ?


You have got to be having a laugh?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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