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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:15 am 
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here is one for you

female decides she wants a night bus but misses it then gets attacked who is to blame for that CEC for not putting on more night buses you do remember they were cut back during the week and the full service only operates at the weekends due to it costing to much to run empty during the week

did someone not say it was CEC duty to make sure the public were safe

i feel there is a email to CEC coming on wooooooooooooooooops :D :D


Chipper, think for yourself . .. it's not that hard. :roll:

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The sad thing is mr failor has been down every ave to try and get his free plate and is now SADLY going on 24/7 about a poor girl getting raped to try and get his FREE plate. what a SICK OLD MAN.


All cities have a shortage of cabs at peak hours, restricted cities even more so.The whole point of the restriction is to limit numbers and therefor limit competition.
Restricted plate numbers result in a greater lack of available taxis at peak hours. That's an undeniable fact. This in turn means people waiting longer at ranks or having to walk. By restricting plate numbers, CEC have allowed this to be a bigger problem than it would otherwise have been.

As I said earlier, at 2am the public don't care if a PH is allowed to pick them up or not, they will use one if they can. The cops don't care either, they just want the streets cleared.
CEC are responsible for PH licencing but have failed to stamp out this practice.

Now the only difference to joe public between a licenced PH and a perv with a mondeo is the plate on the back. PH have no roof sign, no signage and in some cases no meter. Meters and radios are easy to come by on ebay anyway. If the passengers don't look round the back, they may not realise that the car they are getting into is unlicensed or the driver unchecked.
They just assume it's a PH car when it isn't. An easy enough mistake to make on a cold, wet night with a few drinks in.

This is how one thing can lead to another and then another, and then to a tragedy. It may or may not have been forseeable, that is neither here nor there. It has now happened and CEC, Edinburgh police and the trade need to see what can be done to prevent it happening again. Or at least make it harder for the pervs.

It is in a way unfortunate that jasbar was the one to draw attention to this, since it gives those who don't want change the opportunity to claim he is only interested in furthering his own agenda. It is always easy to shoot the messenger, just because you don't like the message. That doesn't make the message any less true.
If this had been highlighted by someone else, especially someone with no interest in taxi politics, how would the message have then been received?

The burning question now is - does keeping a policy in place mean more to your council than the safety of the public ?
Someone needs to look at this from a fresh perspective, before it happens again. Next time there could be a fatality. It does happen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 168436.stm


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They just assume it's a PH car when it isn't. An easy enough mistake to make on a cold, wet night with a few drinks in


Its not Just PHs they think theyre getting into....they get that p*ssed they wouldnt tell a fully illuminated taxi from Strawbale with wheels on...theyd mistake any vehicle when they get rat arsed...so dont lay the blame just on PHs.


It's much harder for a perv to masquerade as a hack - the vehicle not being your typical saloon car.



Maybe so...but that would only serve to make the Masquerade more plausible and the pervs chances of success better still....as the saying goes "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck"
...Does'nt mean it is a Duck...


Why would a perv make himself so obvious as to ride around with a taxi sign when he doesn't have to? Granted, some places he might need to go to such lengths but not in Edinburgh where PH are allowed to operate as pseudo taxis with the acquisence of everyone, including most of the Edinburgh trade.

Edinburgh already allows PH to swim like ducks, so why look like anything else?

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chipper wrote:
here is one for you

female decides she wants a night bus but misses it then gets attacked who is to blame for that CEC for not putting on more night buses you do remember they were cut back during the week and the full service only operates at the weekends due to it costing to much to run empty during the week

did someone not say it was CEC duty to make sure the public were safe

i feel there is a email to CEC coming on wooooooooooooooooops :D :D


Another scenario chipper? Your efforts to absolve everyone from any blame would do Pontius Pilate proud lol.

To answer:
She misses the night bus. She could try to flag a cab, but we know those are like hen's teeth.
She would probably do as she normally does.... flag a PH.

Now isn't that where this all started...............

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Another scenario chipper? Your efforts to absolve everyone from any blame would do Pontius Pilate proud lol.

To answer:
She misses the night bus. She could try to flag a cab, but we know those are like hen's teeth.
She would probably do as she normally does.... flag a PH.

Now isn't that where this all started...............


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only on a friday night and sat night at peak times (3-4 period) is there a lack of taxis and more night buses on the road and during the week there are pleanty of taxi,s around (look at the ranks) but there is a lack of night buses due to no funding from CEC

one last point Not all PH seagull as always gets made out and thats a fact a lot of good guys work in the PH trade and tow the line
the taxi trade is not full of angels just the same as the PH trade is not


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update..................

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Man-due-in-court-over.5005580.jp

hope they cut his B@@@@ of dirty we git


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update..................

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Man-due-in-court-over.5005580.jp

hope they cut his B@@@@ of dirty we git


There's nothing on the page eusasmiles.zip

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http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Crunch-talks-due-in-bid.5005408.jp

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Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim


POLICE were today hunting a bogus private hire car driver after a teenage girl claimed she had been raped on her way home from a night out.

The 19-year-old has told detectives how she hailed what she believed to be a private hire car outside a nightclub in the centre of Edinburgh and was then driven to a remote spot, where she was subjected to a terrifying assault in the car.

She said the Asian man then drove to the other side of the city and threw her out in a residential street in the Kingsknowe area. The girl raised the alarm by going to a nearby house, banging on the door and saying she had been raped.

The emergency services were called and she was taken to hospital. She is now said to be in a stable condition, but traumatised.

Police are studying CCTV tapes from outside the City nightclub in Market Street, from where the girl was picked up.

A police source said: "Officers are trying to gather as much evidence as possible. They are convinced it is a genuine incident and are desperate to track this guy down.

"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."

A police spokeswoman said: "Lothian and Borders Police are investigating after a woman reported a sexual assault in Edinburgh sometime between last Saturday night and Sunday morning. Inquiries are ongoing."

Castle Leisure Group, which owns the City nightclub and adjoining Sportsters bar, have confirmed police are investigating the incident but declined to give any further information.

A spokesman reportedly said: "We are assisting police with their inquiries and giving them full access to all the CCTV images required."

Last year, a 26-year-old woman suffered a serious sexual assault after being picked up in the city centre by a possible bogus private hire car driver.

The victim had left the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street at the west end at around 2.15am on Sunday August 17 and got into the dark-coloured saloon.

She was driven from there to Brunstane Road South, where the man is believed to have assaulted her within the vehicle.

The suspect in that particular incident was described as black, 35 to 40 years old, medium build, with black short hair and a round face.


:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.


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Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim


POLICE were today hunting a bogus private hire car driver after a teenage girl claimed she had been raped on her way home from a night out.

The 19-year-old has told detectives how she hailed what she believed to be a private hire car outside a nightclub in the centre of Edinburgh and was then driven to a remote spot, where she was subjected to a terrifying assault in the car.

She said the Asian man then drove to the other side of the city and threw her out in a residential street in the Kingsknowe area. The girl raised the alarm by going to a nearby house, banging on the door and saying she had been raped.

The emergency services were called and she was taken to hospital. She is now said to be in a stable condition, but traumatised.

Police are studying CCTV tapes from outside the City nightclub in Market Street, from where the girl was picked up.

A police source said: "Officers are trying to gather as much evidence as possible. They are convinced it is a genuine incident and are desperate to track this guy down.

"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."

A police spokeswoman said: "Lothian and Borders Police are investigating after a woman reported a sexual assault in Edinburgh sometime between last Saturday night and Sunday morning. Inquiries are ongoing."

Castle Leisure Group, which owns the City nightclub and adjoining Sportsters bar, have confirmed police are investigating the incident but declined to give any further information.

A spokesman reportedly said: "We are assisting police with their inquiries and giving them full access to all the CCTV images required."

Last year, a 26-year-old woman suffered a serious sexual assault after being picked up in the city centre by a possible bogus private hire car driver.

The victim had left the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street at the west end at around 2.15am on Sunday August 17 and got into the dark-coloured saloon.

She was driven from there to Brunstane Road South, where the man is believed to have assaulted her within the vehicle.

The suspect in that particular incident was described as black, 35 to 40 years old, medium build, with black short hair and a round face.


:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.

If you know who it was, perhaps you would care to inform the police.
BTW you have missed the point :wink:

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Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim


POLICE were today hunting a bogus private hire car driver after a teenage girl claimed she had been raped on her way home from a night out.

The 19-year-old has told detectives how she hailed what she believed to be a private hire car outside a nightclub in the centre of Edinburgh and was then driven to a remote spot, where she was subjected to a terrifying assault in the car.

She said the Asian man then drove to the other side of the city and threw her out in a residential street in the Kingsknowe area. The girl raised the alarm by going to a nearby house, banging on the door and saying she had been raped.

The emergency services were called and she was taken to hospital. She is now said to be in a stable condition, but traumatised.

Police are studying CCTV tapes from outside the City nightclub in Market Street, from where the girl was picked up.

A police source said: "Officers are trying to gather as much evidence as possible. They are convinced it is a genuine incident and are desperate to track this guy down.

"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."

A police spokeswoman said: "Lothian and Borders Police are investigating after a woman reported a sexual assault in Edinburgh sometime between last Saturday night and Sunday morning. Inquiries are ongoing."

Castle Leisure Group, which owns the City nightclub and adjoining Sportsters bar, have confirmed police are investigating the incident but declined to give any further information.

A spokesman reportedly said: "We are assisting police with their inquiries and giving them full access to all the CCTV images required."

Last year, a 26-year-old woman suffered a serious sexual assault after being picked up in the city centre by a possible bogus private hire car driver.

The victim had left the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street at the west end at around 2.15am on Sunday August 17 and got into the dark-coloured saloon.

She was driven from there to Brunstane Road South, where the man is believed to have assaulted her within the vehicle.

The suspect in that particular incident was described as black, 35 to 40 years old, medium build, with black short hair and a round face.


:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.


You mean it was someone masquerading as a Ph :shock: I wish I'd thought of that :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim





"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."



:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.

If you know who it was, perhaps you would care to inform the police.
BTW you have missed the point :wink:


My source tells me that someone was arrested for the crime but as no license suspention was asked for it couldn't have been a licensed PH driver.


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Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim





"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."



:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.

If you know who it was, perhaps you would care to inform the police.
BTW you have missed the point :wink:


My source tells me that someone was arrested for the crime but as no license suspention was asked for it couldn't have been a licensed PH driver.


Oh please spare us the "my source tells me" shi*e. Who are you trying to kid with this international man of mystery crap?

Get a way back over on to fasties :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim





"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."



:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.

If you know who it was, perhaps you would care to inform the police.
BTW you have missed the point :wink:


My source tells me that someone was arrested for the crime but as no license suspention was asked for it couldn't have been a licensed PH driver.


Oh please spare us the "my source tells me" shi*e. Who are you trying to kid with this international man of mystery crap?

Get a way back over on to fasties :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


:shock: Sorry if my source annoys you :D but my sources tells me that you are a baw heid :lol: :lol:


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Council insider wrote:
Skull wrote:
Council insider wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Council insider wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim





"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."




:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.

If you know who it was, perhaps you would care to inform the police.
BTW you have missed the point :wink:


My source tells me that someone was arrested for the crime but as no license suspention was asked for it couldn't have been a licensed PH driver.


Oh please spare us the "my source tells me" shi*e. Who are you trying to kid with this international man of mystery crap?

Get a way back over on to fasties :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


:shock: Sorry if my source annoys you :D but my sources tells me that you are a baw heid :lol: :lol:


My crystal ball tells me you are a tw*t.

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Council insider wrote:
Skull wrote:
Council insider wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Council insider wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Hunt on for bogus cab driver after rape claim





"It was either a normal car or a private hire vehicle and the driver has been described as Asian. Other than that they do not have much to go on."



:wink: I have been informed that the suspect was not a PH driver.

If you know who it was, perhaps you would care to inform the police.
BTW you have missed the point :wink:


My source tells me that someone was arrested for the crime but as no license suspention was asked for it couldn't have been a licensed PH driver.


Oh please spare us the "my source tells me" shi*e. Who are you trying to kid with this international man of mystery crap?

Get a way back over on to fasties :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


:shock: Sorry if my source annoys you :D but my sources tells me that you are a baw heid :lol: :lol:


And what if the next victim dies?


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