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Yes it is acceptable to use the system against itself. IMHO.
Everyone else uses the system for their own ends.
Why should Ali T, Skull or Jasbar be any different?
They are three guys against the financial might of CEC.
The council fund the defence from everyone's pocket.
How fair is that? Do they ask those who are paying first?
I'm pretty sure Edinburgh could find better uses for the money.

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think about what i have said

not much to think about.
but why dont you tell me why you think i should not have sold ?

I already have.

Almost every plate in Edinburgh has an artificial value created by council policy. Plates are held by many people who are not even connected with the taxi trade except by ownership of their plates. I believe some are (or at least were) held by the very councillors who spend public money to defend the system and therefore protect their values. How moral is that?

Ali T has in many ways made what could be a shrewd business move. He was granted a plate which the current system valued at around 50k. He believes the system will eventually change, wiping out this value. He sold it while it was worth something. If he is right, he will be able to get another. If he is wrong then he will lose out. His decision and his risk.
The morals of his decision are for him to decide. In the same position I would have done the same thing

This system is just plain wrong and has to change. Any means, fair or foul, should be used to change it.

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now thats impressive cheap, low level, psycology youre using thier saf.
sad thing is you actually think its having an effect

No psychology needed Ali,just have a look at Gary's recent rant on ETF,it's there for us all to see
The man is clearly hurting
The demons in their heads are doing a really good job
Btw,have you found yourself a drive yet ? Remember and don't spend that money to quick Ali,you know it's all going back into our wonderful system don't you.

not looking for a drive the trades dying in edinburgh, im out for good(well i may trade some plates but thats another story)
what you see as someone hurting is not what i see .
what i see is the boiled down truth.
this so called debate that the edinburgh lot have been having(even though thier not involved and are merley witnesses to the event,second hand witnesses at that)
has gone on for ever,you cant admit to the failings of the system,and never will so youre irrelevent.
what garry has decided imo is that its not worth the bother talking to the blind and the deaf and that the direct approach is probably best.
I:E YOURE A BUNCH O' WINKERS
and i do concur
btw my applications are now in,and i look forward to putting on my new scoda superb within the next 6 months
trust me hear,my applications and what is contained within them is a minefield,they cant help but step on one of them,and that should blow a few plates my way.

i take it that the comment on the use of cheap phsycology went over youre head,or was it through youre ears saf

you really are quite dim and witless arent you

Your out the trade for good yet you are putting a new "skoda superb" on
Ali,it doesn't surprise me or anyone else that this is what you are doing,so you like to throw money away,good for you.
Your applications are now in you say,well i take it you didn't take my advice on the high interest account then
I hope the contents of your applications are better than the dynamic duds, they said they had it wrapped up and we all know what happened there
What a little fibber you are Ali,still telling the jokes though.

i take it that the comment on the use of cheap phsycology went over youre head,or was it through youre ears saf

you really are quite dim and witless arent you

saf you seem to have decided that the case is over and the judgement is in.
newsflash it aint.
kinda reminds me of another case.(got youre plate yet ali )
do you ever learn
if you werent anon,you wouldnt open youre big gob for fear of embarresment when youre proven wrong.
youre a [edited by admin] and a coward saf
garry has the conviction,you dont thats why youre anon.

the skoda is on one of the applications,i have no intention of keeping it or of driving a taxi.

Ali is it you that has just put the gold colour Skoda on as a hack down here in the Borders???? the driver is from the smoke

i think its a joke that you fight to have a plate and the right to work the hours you want and have no 50k loan then you sell it. what was the point

you tell me why you sold it after fighting for it

The council have never granted plates on the real demand for taxi services. They think up a figure and tell the consultant what they want. The job of the “consultant” is merely to make their decision making process look plausible. What the council really pay for is “Expert Opinion” and if you don’t happen to be an expert you can’t challenge their findings. A proper survey would cost in the region of 100k, to come anywhere near assessing the real demand. The councils last survey didn’t cost 30K.

In the last 6 years Edinburgh has seen a 6 plate increase, (the plates won in court)while this is one of the fastest growing cities in Europe. Plate “values” have doubled along with the number of PH working the city in the same time period.

Every other transport group is booming but not the hacks, now why do you think that is?


Oh and Btw, the credit crunch is a new phenomena. This all started 3 years ago before credit even broke a twig.

Have you passed your brief yet Chipper?

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Chipper writes:




I don't fight the system Chipper, I play the system by its own rules. Whether you think the system is right or wrong is irrelevant.

If you are playing by social norms? The system is wrong and unfair to those who are forced to buy in to secure their employment.

If you are playing by market norms? The system is fair, simply because the same rules apply to all.

The principle of a Social Justice system operating in a market driven economy is a joke.

You've only to look at the Judiciary to work that one out.

In this country we have the law. The right decisions are bought and paid through the Judiciary. If you happen to get justice, it's more of an accident than anything else- a by-product.

Lawyers simple take your money and crunch you through the court process. The more binary code you can afford ££££, the bigger and better your program of representation. The greater the chance of a decision in your favour.

Now if you can't understand the above chip, it means you haven't got a clue.

No black and white chip, only shades of grey. You are confusing two competing systems - social justice and market norms

Just because you pick one over the other it doesn't make you more right than the next guy.

Think about it!!!!

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