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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:14 am 
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Opinions are like [edited by admin]' Toots. Everybody's got one, but how many people have an opinion of their own?

In my opinion - if you will allow me to have an opinion - in your opinion the only opinion is your opinion. Any other opinion, in your opinion is merely the opinion of those not entitled to an opinion.

Is that your opinion?

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I know you don't know any better, products of the system never do. It's part of your social conditioning. That's the whole point.

You will never wake up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now I'm intrigued - are you not too a "product of the system", did you not get any "social conditioning". Your anarchic outlook surely must be as a direct result of "social conditioning" and an opposition to it. Unless you are an alien (other world rather than other country) the "system" must have produced you.

Perhaps I have assuaged my intrigue by writing it down.

Do you prefer Skull or E.T. ?

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I know you don't know any better, products of the system never do


This coming from a raving communist :shock:

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Skull you come across as a bitter cynic


Tell me where I've got it wrong? :-|


Who said you had it wrong? I didn't I just expressed my opinion. Apart from which I'm not going down that road with you it'll end up a personal slagging match and I'm not in the mood


How about this Toots, just for a bit fun.

Opinions are like [edited by admin]' Toots. Everybody's got one, but how many people have an opinion of their own?

Education in this country, is, for the most part, a system of imposed ignorance. A well trained robot gets a job as a Lawyer or an accountant. Poorly trained robots work in MacDonald's or drive Taxis. It's all about learning the process, and not about thinking for oneself. If you don't know the right questions to ask and can't see the failures in the process, how do you form an opinion that is actually your own?

Example: Toot's makes a complaint that a police officer assaulted her. Two officers, an Inspector and a Sargent call to investigate the complaint.

Toots, has already crafted a detailed signed account of events.

The officers, however, want to question Toot's while jotting down notes in their little black books and then want Toots to sign off on the complaint as the true version of events.

The real, detailed statement is consigned to the bin, and now the investigating officers have an abridged version to work on to reduce the seriousness of the complaint even further.

The whole process is about protecting police officers against complaints from the public and not proving wrongdoing against the police.


The above is exactly what you can expect if you ever do make a complaint against the police. The system's processes are set up to protect the police first, not you. It's the same with the political system. The first objective of any government is to control the populace. The Mr. T's and Wayne's of the taxi trade are, in fact, the problem and not the solution, they represent the system and the control it has over all of you.


:-|

True or False?


Come on Chris, Toots, CC why not read the above and point to where I have got it wrong, but see if you can be honest with yourself.

Oh and Toots, I am no communist. I couldn't read and write until much later in life. I was one of these children the system would describe as having a disruptive influence on others. I liked to ask questions and found school work extremely boring.

You could say, I never got the program. I was too busy educating myself instead of believing the pish, they were peddling in that Robot Factory they called a school.


Talk about mindless units of production. :roll:

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Skull.. you really must live in another world.. you seem to be continuously at war.... with everybody and everything.... you really don't seem to be a happy chappie.

now then... you can show how clever you are... explain to me what a policy is.. How a council adopts a policy.. and what happens to council employees that do not abide by the adopted policy... and then explain to me the procedures needed to unadopt or even change the said adopted policy.... I am keeping this simple for you... we will not go into policies that are interlinked with policies....

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Skull.. you really must live in another world.. you seem to be continuously at war.... with everybody and everything.... you really don't seem to be a happy chappie.

now then... you can show how clever you are... explain to me what a policy is.. How a council adopts a policy.. and what happens to council employees that do not abide by the adopted policy... and then explain to me the procedures needed to unadopt or even change the said adopted policy.... I am keeping this simple for you... we will not go into policies that are interlinked with policies....


I'm not at War with anyone at the moment, and as for being happy, as a sand boy. :D

Policy - a plan of action adopted by an individual or social group.


Policies are formulated through qualitative and quantitative methods, case studies, research surveys and statistical analysis.

(the above means that any answers they want, are bought and paid for with the public purse)

You can check out the procedures followed by Edinburgh Council from the links below. I'm assuming your consultation with the council is in the form of a deputation with council officials (Tea and buns).


http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/818/de ... t_meetings

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/818/de ... committees

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Hi
I have been giving a lot of thought to what happened last week and i am not happy. I was not bullied at the school and i will not be bullied know.
I fell that the cab enforcement had no right to question me on my opinions that i made on a social network web site .As i have said, free speech should be afforded to everyone, i will therefore be taken this further and realize i will have to put up with the consequences.
Calling someone a numpty on a social network web site should not be a crime . Also i still believe if they got their fingers out their arses and worked the weekends we would not have as much problems as we have.
I plan to take my representatives from the DTA,STF and the Unite union with me to ask if this is the norm to spy on peoples opinions or am i being singed out because of my views.
I am also contemplating taking my story to the press as i feel i am being singled out.
Cheers Tony waters


I Guess the council jobsworths have as much right to read your posts as anyone else has............but!!!! if the Sad-sack in question has nothing better to with their time or their lives other than to snoop on the publics right to free speech and opinion, well then...in my mind his or hers publicly funded employers should get rid of them simply because they cant find anything more useful to do in their working day. :roll:


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Skull.. you really must live in another world.. you seem to be continuously at war.... with everybody and everything.... you really don't seem to be a happy chappie.

now then... you can show how clever you are... explain to me what a policy is.. How a council adopts a policy.. and what happens to council employees that do not abide by the adopted policy... and then explain to me the procedures needed to unadopt or even change the said adopted policy.... I am keeping this simple for you... we will not go into policies that are interlinked with policies....



Trevor, I think you are missing the point. A council should not be able to choose what powers they want to abuse, if and when they feel like it. And if they do they should be made to be held accountable in a court of law, and if found guilty forced to pay the penalty. This is the only real protection afforded to individuals or groups that suffer as a consequence of council wrongdoing.

Tea and buns meetings might give you some sort of big boy feels good factor, but the truth is, if a council can be made accountable for its actions, you would not be having meetings with them in the first place. As they would not be conducting themselves like a bunch of power crazed freaks. :-|

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Here's another one for you Trevor. If a council decides to de-restrict or deregulate the taxi trade what then, more tea and buns?

Hows that for a an "unadopted" policy Trevor?
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Trevor, the so called “democratic process” is only to make guys like you feel important. The procedures you follow and the scraps thrown your way is meant to pacify the herd. All the really important decisions are made before you even walk through the door. Don't you think a council knows when it's abusing its powers? And you believe you really make the difference.

So how does it go then Trevor? Do you think the council only started to realise their abuses when you brought it to their attention?

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Skull.. you really must live in another world.. you seem to be continuously at war.... with everybody and everything.... you really don't seem to be a happy chappie.

now then... you can show how clever you are... explain to me what a policy is.. How a council adopts a policy.. and what happens to council employees that do not abide by the adopted policy... and then explain to me the procedures needed to unadopt or even change the said adopted policy.... I am keeping this simple for you... we will not go into policies that are interlinked with policies....


I'm not at War with anyone at the moment, and as for being happy, as a sand boy. :D

Policy - a plan of action adopted by an individual or social group.


Policies are formulated through qualitative and quantitative methods, case studies, research surveys and statistical analysis.

(the above means that any answers they want, are bought and paid for with the public purse)

You can check out the procedures followed by Edinburgh Council from the links below. I'm assuming your consultation with the council is in the form of a deputation with council officials (Tea and buns).


http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/818/de ... t_meetings

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/818/de ... committees
As I thought... you don't really know..... anyone can Google an answer..... and personally I prefer coffee and biscuits.....

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Skull.. you really must live in another world.. you seem to be continuously at war.... with everybody and everything.... you really don't seem to be a happy chappie.

now then... you can show how clever you are... explain to me what a policy is.. How a council adopts a policy.. and what happens to council employees that do not abide by the adopted policy... and then explain to me the procedures needed to unadopt or even change the said adopted policy.... I am keeping this simple for you... we will not go into policies that are interlinked with policies....


I'm not at War with anyone at the moment, and as for being happy, as a sand boy. :D

Policy - a plan of action adopted by an individual or social group.


Policies are formulated through qualitative and quantitative methods, case studies, research surveys and statistical analysis.

(the above means that any answers they want, are bought and paid for with the public purse)

You can check out the procedures followed by Edinburgh Council from the links below. I'm assuming your consultation with the council is in the form of a deputation with council officials (Tea and buns).


http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/818/de ... t_meetings

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/818/de ... committees
As I thought... you don't really know..... anyone can Google an answer..... and personally I prefer coffee and biscuits.....


I know you need to believe you have some sort of superior knowledge, when dealing with the council Trevor, but the truth is, you don't really matter.

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Skull can I ask you for your opinion of section 52 and if you could change something about it what would it be and how would you go about it?

Also whilst I'm asking can I have your opinion of the Equalities Act (well the bit referring to Taxis/PH) and again if you could change anything within it what would that be and how would you go about that?

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Skull can I ask you for your opinion of section 52 and if you could change something about it what would it be and how would you go about it?

Also whilst I'm asking can I have your opinion of the Equalities Act (well the bit referring to Taxis/PH) and again if you could change anything within it what would that be and how would you go about that?

I was in the Navy.
When the anti-misile misiles have gone and the thing is incoming still, the Ops Officer tells the Ships Company (crew) "Brace Brace Brace". This is to save yourself from the concussion at impact - if you don't actually catch the Exocet with your teeth. Then, if you survive, you are able to undertake Damage Control - fighting fires, floods etcetra.
Toots (et al), after your post can I suggest that now would be good time to Brace Brace Brace!

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