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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:10 pm 
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This has been on the cards, I believe the only reason these vehicles were introduced is because they thought they could get away with plying for hire as hackney carriages.

This is the first step in getting them to comply with the legislation they are licensed under. If they are found to have breached licensing conditions and they get a warning to their future conduct then a second breach of conditions could prove fatal.

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now we agree :shock: :shock: :shock:

but surely licensed as HC's Brighton would need to or effectively deregulate :shock:

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Oh well, that's my plan for a Chavrolet taxi knackered then. :D

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This has been on the cards, I believe the only reason these vehicles were introduced is because they thought they could get away with plying for hire as hackney carriages.

This is the first step in getting them to comply with the legislation they are licensed under. If they are found to have breached licensing conditions and they get a warning to their future conduct then a second breach of conditions could prove fatal.

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now we agree :shock: :shock: :shock:

but surely licensed as HC's Brighton would need to or effectively deregulate


Under a Dublin scenario they might get licensed but not under a TDO scenario or even under a Brighton scenario. Responsible Councils that have lifted numbers control recently have done so under quality vehicle control. The stance TDO and myself take on quality controls are well known, we have always advocated that is the way forward and we are pleased that many councils and the DfT are seeing it our way.

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Under a Dublin scenario they might get licensed but not under a TDO scenario or even under a Brighton scenario. Responsible Councils that have lifted numbers control recently have done so under quality vehicle control. The stance TDO and myself take on quality controls are well known, we have always advocated that is the way forward and we are pleased that many councils and the DfT are seeing it our way.

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But surely if a tuk tuk is licensed as a HC, and the LA have in place numbers control, they have effectively delimited? Whats to stop a HC tuk tuk putting the plate on another vehicle?

So far as I am aware, the TDO scenario isnt really the issue, although it is a scenario.

If they believed they could be licensed as you suggest (and I tend to agree) as HC's. I find it difficult to understand what is to stop a tuk tuk proprietor transfering the plate onto another vehicle type.

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Under a Dublin scenario they might get licensed but not under a TDO scenario or even under a Brighton scenario. Responsible Councils that have lifted numbers control recently have done so under quality vehicle control. The stance TDO and myself take on quality controls are well known, we have always advocated that is the way forward and we are pleased that many councils and the DfT are seeing it our way.

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But surely if a tuk tuk is licensed as a HC,


Do Tuk Tuks meet the local licensing conditions for WAVS?

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By the way, if Dusty and Alex sanction this campaign against section 75 r u up 4 it?


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Do Tuk Tuks meet the local licensing conditions for WAVS?

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By the way, if Dusty and Alex sanction this campaign against section 75 r u up 4 it?


Like pedicabs JD? :wink:

I'll help in regards to section 75 in any way I can, I have sent out letters requesting people contact their MP's and make their views on the contract exemption known.

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Do Tuk Tuks meet the local licensing conditions for WAVS?

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By the way, if Dusty and Alex sanction this campaign against section 75 r u up 4 it?


Like pedicabs JD?


Ah! but pedicabs are not motorised?

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Ah! but pedicabs are not motorised?

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Touche'

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:28 am 
Have tuk-tuks run out of luck?

EUROPE'S first fleet of tuk-tuks faces a fight to stay on the roads just months after the service was launched in Brighton and Hove.

A public inquiry has been called following allegations that the motorised rickshaws are not sticking to the timetable set out in their licence.

A dozen tuk-tuks have been carrying the public around the city since July but not everybody has welcomed the multicoloured vehicles normally associated with the streets of Thailand.
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The city's Taxi Trade Forum has been consulting lawyers to challenge TucTuc Ltd's bus operators licence, which requires the firm only to pick up passengers from designated spots and operate to a strict time table.

Under the agreement, the tuk-tuks run between Brighton Marina, Brighton station and Hove and cost £2.50 for an adult single journey.

A spokesman for the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency confirmed that Christopher Heaps, Traffic Commissioner for the South East and London, had received a formal complaint and that a team of bus compliancy officers had been sent to the city's streets to compile a report on the tuk-tuk service.

Mr Heaps concluded that evidence should be put before a public inquiry into TucTuc Ltd set for October 3.

He would have the power to stop the company operating if the inquiry found against the company.

The commissioner could also hand out a fine of up to £16,000, or stop the firm from registering any more tuk-tuks .

This is the second blow to the rickshaw operator in less than a week, after fashion house Burberry ordered Brighton and Hove's favourite tuk-tuk, the chavrolet, off the road over allegations it was in breach of copyright laws.

Dominic Ponniah, founder of TucTuc Ltd, said he was disappointed with the decision and urged supporters to sign a petition he has set up at www.surveymonkey.com He said: "Since our launch just a month ago, the tuk-tuks have been warmly received by the people of Brighton and Hove. We are offering a unique transport service and I believe we have boosted the city as a tourist destination.

"However, we are really disappointed that a minority of the Brighton taxi community feels so threatened by a fleet of just 12 tuk-tuks .

"We have been criticised for not consistently sticking to the timetable we first submitted when we were granted a licence to operate our tuk-tuk bus service. It takes time to establish a new service such as this and I am proud of the gains we have made so far.

"I can honestly say that I have personally received no more than five complaints compared to literally hundreds of letters of support.

"Our small fleet represents no competition to the taxis and yet we find ourselves constantly under attack by them."

Councillor Simon Burgess, council leader, is one of the tuk-tuks supporters, but said all public vehicles must comply with their licence. He said: "They sum up a lot of what people love about the city - environmentally friendly, bright and fun."

The inquiry will be held at Ivy House, Ivy Terrace, Eastbourne, from 10am.


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Article in yesterdays Times Chav TukTuk has to be repainted BURBERY are not happy with it infinging there copyright :lol:


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Article in yesterdays Times Chav TukTuk has to be repainted BURBERY are not happy with it infinging there copyright :lol:


Whats wrong with BURBERRY :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Too dear.

Unless it's faked :lol:

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I can honestly say that I have personally received no more than five complaints...


He obviously hasn't been reading here, on the ranks, in the streets etc.



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...compared to literally hundreds of letters of support.


Who the hell writes letters like that? :?

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Councillor Simon Burgess, council leader, is one of the tuk-tuks supporters, but said all public vehicles must comply with their licence. He said: "They sum up a lot of what people love about the city - environmentally friendly, bright and fun."



Unlike his council's policy of taxi quotas, meaning division, exploited drivers and fleeced consumers. :?

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Ah! but pedicabs are not motorised?


hang on, which bit says motorised?

section 38 TPCA says any wheeled carriage :wink:

surely the tuc tuc could be licensed and the LA could attach conditions to the proprietors license? in a similar way to Cambridge vs. Lane?

of course, i could be barking up the wrong tree

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