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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:01 am 
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"Read my lips"

No one has ever overturned a council decision to deregulate.

If a court finds the council consultation process was flawed then a council will only go back and get it right the next time.

Hence the fact that no one has ever stopped a council from deregulating, if this solicitor doesn't know that then she is a fool and so are the cab drivers of Chester.

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you'd better hurry up then otherwise you might have a long wait till after the trial


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Funny thing about tapes they`re not the same as actually being there !!!


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your last comment does not make sense....hope you're vehicle arrives before the doors close, these cases can take a long time.

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MR T wrote:
your last comment does not make sense....hope you're vehicle arrives before the doors close, these cases can take along time.


They can also prove costly for the losing party. I don't suppose that slipped your mind?

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MR T wrote:
your last comment does not make sense....hope you're vehicle arrives before the doors close, these cases can take along time.




Considering that the Council have now decided that there is significant unmet demand supported by various sources then surely it would be against the law to deny me a plate regardless of any other action.But then I don`t pay a solicitor thousands.


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JD wrote:
"Read my lips"

No one has ever overturned a council decision to deregulate.

If a court finds the council consultation process was flawed then a council will only go back and get it right the next time.

Hence the fact that no one has ever stopped a council from deregulating, if this solicitor doesn't know that then she is a fool and so are the cab drivers of Chester.


I don't think I said anything about overturning the council's decision to deregulate

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JDBubbles wrote:
MR T wrote:
your last comment does not make sense....hope you're vehicle arrives before the doors close, these cases can take along time.


Well give me a tape for half an hour and I could make it say anything you wanted.

Considering that the Council have now decided that there is significant unmet demand supported by various sources then surely it would be against the law to deny me a plate regardless of any other action.But then I don`t pay a solicitor thousands.


believe it or not, I am not having a go at you............ if it was me I'd be quick

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JDBubbles wrote:
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your last comment does not make sense....hope you're vehicle arrives before the doors close, these cases can take along time.


Well give me a tape for half an hour and I could make it say anything you wanted.

Considering that the Council have now decided that there is significant unmet demand supported by various sources then surely it would be against the law to deny me a plate regardless of any other action.But then I don`t pay a soliticor thousands.


A change of policy requires consultation with those that any changes might affect.

It is not enough to say that there is unmet demand.

A council could it if wished, dispense with the need for consultation by simply stating it will no longer undertake a survey of unmet demand, if it was ever challenged it merely has to state that it was not in a position to refuse a license because it was not in possession of evidence of demand.

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If a court finds the council consultation process was flawed then a council will only go back and get it right the next time.


but which council will it be :roll:

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but which council will it be :roll:


Watford for one.

I don't expect you failing brain to recall what transpired in Watford but you can read all about it in the TDO archives.

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JD wrote:
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If a court finds the council consultation process was flawed then a council will only go back and get it right the next time.


but which council will it be :roll:


Watford for one.

I don't expect you failing brain to recall what transpired in Watford but you can read all about it in the TDO archives.

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I think it"s your brain that is failing.... Chester Council will not exist soon

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JDBubbles wrote:
Considering that the Council have now decided that there is significant unmet demand supported by various sources then surely it would be against the law to deny me a plate regardless of any other action.But then I don`t pay a solicitor thousands.


Here is something interesting that I had forgotten about this thread.

I have just been re-reading OFT676, the original report in November 2003 (for a meeting we have tomorrow with the council's Working Group) & paragraph 4.13 states;

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If LAs are to refuse to issue further taxi licences they must first go through a process aimed at establishing that there is no ‘significant demand that is unmet’. They generally do this by carrying out an ‘unmet demand’ survey, on average every two to four years. The survey mainly involves observation at ranks of the demand for taxis, carried out over a representative period. If a survey suggests an unmet demand then the LA must issue the number of plates that the survey deems is required to meet the shortfall.

So, in other words OFT676 didn't recommend that there should be a free-for-all if a SUD survey found that there was a significant unmet demand. That report said to issue the number of plates to meet the shortfall.

No wonder when plates start being issued in these circumstances, the new plate holders ask for the issue to stop as soon as they've got their plate.

They're right because that is what OFT676 says.

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I think it"s your brain that is failing.... Chester Council will not exist soon


My brain has been failing for years, what's your excuse?

Chester might not exist at a future period in time but we are not talking about a future period in time, we are talking about here and now, so please don't try and cloud the issue.

Chester have deregulated and that is the be all and end all of the situation. If a stupid solicitor thinks she can overturn a democratic decision arrived at by democratic means then she is an idiot.

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I wouldn't know.... and not a specialist in European law ..... :lol:

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By the way, by all means show my comments to the Chester taxi association and if they wish to come on here and debate their case then I will be moire than happy to oblige them.

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