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 Post subject: Traffic Wardens
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:42 pm 
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Quick question. In town we have a small 5 car rank that hardly moves. Some drivers park their cars in the rank and nip to a shop/bank/toilet and when they come back a ticket has been planted on their window by a Traffic Warden. Is this right? They are not preventing any other cars getting in by doing this as at most there is only two cars there at any given time. :?:


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:50 pm 
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its a criminal offence to park in a taxi rank.
unless of course youre a taxi :wink:
therfore it is not in the jurisdiction of the traffic warden who can only deal with civil parking matters.(or decriminalised parking) :shock:
the police could give you a ticket i believe but not the warden.

but even the police cant give a ticket to a taxi for parking in a taxi rank.if you catch my drift

thats what i know of this and its always worked for me on the george the 4th bridge rank and the one oot side the sheriff court.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:10 pm 
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you are not allowed to leave an unattended taxi on a rank,if you are not in the cab legally its not working,an unattended cab is simply classed as using the rank as a parking space which of course it isnt


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 Post subject: Re: Traffic Wardens
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:59 pm 
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Kirkcaldy Cabbie wrote:
Quick question. In town we have a small 5 car rank that hardly moves. Some drivers park their cars in the rank and nip to a shop/bank/toilet and when they come back a ticket has been planted on their window by a Traffic Warden. Is this right? They are not preventing any other cars getting in by doing this as at most there is only two cars there at any given time. :?:

I would consider a driver getting a ticket whilst going to the loo as a bit extreme, and think I would succeed when I appealed.

The problem is drivers tend to take the p*** when actually they aren't going for one. :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:47 pm 
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dundee wav wrote:
you are not allowed to leave an unattended taxi on a rank,if you are not in the cab legally its not working,an unattended cab is simply classed as using the rank as a parking space which of course it isnt

i think youre talking about council conditions there,and youre quite right .

as for the ticket having any legal standing in scotland.

i dont think so.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:48 pm 
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criminal offence not in the remit of the wardens.
fact :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:35 am 
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My driver got a ticket he was parked on a taxi rank ,he appealed and had the ticket wiped.He said that he was going to collect a wheelchair passenger and that the rank was the safest place to park.But as Sussex says he was taken the pxss because he was doing his shopping


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:37 am 
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ALI T wrote:
criminal offence not in the remit of the wardens.
fact :wink:


The Traffic Wardens in Fife are all Fife Constabulary T.W's Ali, they've not gone down the privatised route like Edinburgh City Council.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:43 am 
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Personally I can't wait for Taxi Rank parking offences to be de-criminalised in London, unattended taxis on ranks seem to have reached epidemic levels.

I don't have too much time for 'Civil enforcement officers' (Council Traffic Wardens) but it's turning into a free for all. Lets see what a £60 a go fee does for the selfish clowns who practise this daily. [-(

The Police don't enforce it anymore as they're too busy with other priorities such as half the London Minicab trade touting illegally.


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"The Police don't enforce it anymore as they're too busy with other priorities such as half the London Minicab trade touting illegally"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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TRAFFIC wardens in Edinburgh dished out enough tickets to fine more than HALF the city’s population in just one year.
Figures show the “blue meanies” issued nearly a quarter of a million penalties over 12 months.

The 232,693 fines — almost 20,000 a MONTH or 637 a DAY — were worth around £7million to the council.

It dwarfs Glasgow’s 149,739 and is almost as many as were issued by the rest of Scotland’s wardens combined.

In the six councils for which figures are available, 484,113 fines were dished out — raking in £14.6million.

Last night Neil Greig, Research and Policy director at the Institute of Advanced Motorists, hit out at the number of fines handed out in Edinburgh.

He said: “I’ve no sympathy for people who park illegally or blatantly don’t pay. But I don’t think Edinburgh’s residents are going out to break the rules in these numbers.

“I think a lot of fines come about through misunderstandings like unclear signs, which should be addressed.


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“The problem is if you start getting this level of income from tickets the council may start depending on it, resisting any change to how things are done.”

A spokesman for the TaxPayers’ Alliance added: “There is clearly a problem with the parking system when this number of people are being fined. There is a risk that with so much revenue being generated by this unfair system they will not be inclined to reform it.”


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As well as hitting the capital’s 468,000 residents with tens of thousands of tickets in 2007/08, wardens also removed more than 2,000 cars.

The figures were revealed by Scottish Government chiefs. The six councils were Edinburgh, Glasgow, Perth & Kinross, Aberdeen, Dundee and South Lanarkshire. The lowest number of tickets was in Perth and Kinross, where wardens slapped 11,046 fines on motorists.

However, 14 per cent of those ended up being written off after appeals. In Edinburgh one in ten was cancelled, while 17 per cent are still outstanding.

A spokesman for the city’s council said: “Any surplus revenues are reinvested in transport improvements.”


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:21 am 
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dundee wav wrote:
you are not allowed to leave an unattended taxi on a rank,if you are not in the cab legally its not working,an unattended cab is simply classed as using the rank as a parking space which of course it isnt
This is the law & is quite correct.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:13 pm 
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parking in a taxi rank in scotland is a criminal offence.

only someone with the authority to charge someone with a criminal offence can do so.that would be the police and perhaps the police traffic wardens.

i dont pretend to know the situ in dundee
but if the situ is the same as edinburgh,and you taxi was ticketed in a taxi rank by anyone other than the police then im afraid the council dont have a leg to stand on.

been there got the medal.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:34 am 
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I'm pretty sure City Cabs were allowed to park on the old Manor place rank opposite their office on atholl place.. Not sure why, probably a pit stop for the toilet or summit but what I do know is that it got abused freaquently by the committe who used it as their own personal car park. I do remember a memo going about at the time saying you were allowed to leave the vehicle unattended for a certain period of time(five minutes??). Too bad if ye had the skits :lol:


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