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It is Alleged that Scottish Borders Council are to introduce the requirement for all drivers that undertake school contracts to have a medical.
They have forgoten one thing if true, because they have, or about to introduce this requirment, they must pay for them

skippy41 wrote:

dont they already get a medical certificate off occy health for a badge?

well lucky you then, all HC and PH need a medical here and always have.

also Proof of some driver training (Though it doesnt say which training)

skippy41 wrote:

they are also going to insist on drivers having an enhanced Disclosure scotland document under 3 years old and also Proof of some driver training (Though it doesnt say which training)

this isnt the taxi Licensing that insists on it, they are more relaxed....its the School transport dept of the same council. funny that they could not have told us all this months or weeks ago but instead tell us on the day some of the transport tenders plop through the letter box with only 4 weeks til the new school terms start. even then theres a conflict within their new "must haves" where they say that these things must be supplied no later 8 weeks after the contracts start or your contract will be terminated immediately and on another part of the same SBC tenders contract it states that these things should be lodged with them before they will even consider you for a tender..which is it??

And....its up to us to pay for new Disclosures at £23 a throw even though the ones we already have are perfectly fine and do not have expiry date on them..simply because they are only accurate at the time of issue...

Strange world..

If there licenced they are fit and proper FFS

The Rumour is true :shock:

I have just received half the rain forest in a bumper bundle of contracts available.
Enclosed was a letter from the council that a meeting will be held on Thursday 30 th of July at 11.30 Am at Parker towers Newtown st Boswells to clarify any queries within the altered and new schedule 2 conditions of contract

vehicles and drivers.
33, The contractor must ensure that all drivers are fit and proper to deliver the services described in schedule 1, To ensure this the council contract manager must see a valid original enhanced disclosure through DS and a valid medical certificate, which will then be logged on the council passenger data base, once logged drivers can operate any council contract over the next 3 years period.
failure to complete this requirement within the first 8 weeks of the start of the contract will result in the contract being withdrawn from the contractor with immediate effect.
The council reserves the right to determine whether an individual is, or is not a suitable person to drive vehicles on transport contracts, and to notify the contractor of this decision in writing.
After receipt of such notice the contractor shall not continue to employ that driver on journeys which operate on contract to the council.
The council shall be under no obligation to give reasons for there decision

After 3 years of being on the council passenger transport database contractors and drivers will be randomly asked to provide a new EDS checks or medical certificate failure to supply this will lead to the driver being removed from the contract.

What a load of Balls, if a driver or operator has already been licenced they have already had an enhanced discloser done and they don't require a medical until they reach 60
If there licenced they are fit and proper FFS

Do I take it that you won't be complying then Skippy?
_________________
Grandad,
old fart with no heart

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Do I take it that you won't be complying then Skippy?
_________________
Grandad,
old fart with no heart

They can stuff there contracts, I have never done any and going by the list quite a few 6 seater's are required this year, 286 contracts available 141 are 6 seat ones.
And in some booster seats are required and the operator must supply them this year, there is one where 5 is required for 1 contract.

I think this new guy in the transport department has lost the plot but hopefully he will get the message next Thursday

skippy41 wrote:

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Do I take it that you won't be complying then Skippy?
_________________
Grandad,
old fart with no heart

How come ive only been sent 97 of the contracts available which came in 2 packs..wheres the other 189??

The Rumour is true :shock:

Author:	skippy41 [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:10 am ]
Post subject:	The Scottish Borders rumour mill
It is Alleged that Scottish Borders Council are to introduce the requirement for all drivers that undertake school contracts to have a medical. They have forgoten one thing if true, because they have, or about to introduce this requirment, they must pay for them

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The Scottish Borders rumour mill
skippy41 wrote: It is Alleged that Scottish Borders Council are to introduce the requirement for all drivers that undertake school contracts to have a medical. They have forgoten one thing if true, because they have, or about to introduce this requirment, they must pay for them dont they already get a medical certificate off occy health for a badge?

Author:	skippy41 [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The Scottish Borders rumour mill
wannabeeahack wrote: skippy41 wrote: It is Alleged that Scottish Borders Council are to introduce the requirement for all drivers that undertake school contracts to have a medical. They have forgoten one thing if true, because they have, or about to introduce this requirment, they must pay for them dont they already get a medical certificate off occy health for a badge? No there is no requirement for a medical until the driver reaches 60, then every 3 years and the council pays for it

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:42 pm ]
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well lucky you then, all HC and PH need a medical here and always have.

Author:	toots [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:49 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: well lucky you then, all HC and PH need a medical here and always have. and we pay for it ourselves

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Author:	bloodnock [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:00 am ]
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skippy41 wrote: It is Alleged that Scottish Borders Council are to introduce the requirement for all drivers that undertake school contracts to have a medical. They have forgoten one thing if true, because they have, or about to introduce this requirment, they must pay for them they are also going to insist on drivers having an enhanced Disclosure scotland document under 3 years old and also Proof of some driver training (Though it doesnt say which training) this isnt the taxi Licensing that insists on it, they are more relaxed....its the School transport dept of the same council. funny that they could not have told us all this months or weeks ago but instead tell us on the day some of the transport tenders plop through the letter box with only 4 weeks til the new school terms start. even then theres a conflict within their new "must haves" where they say that these things must be supplied no later 8 weeks after the contracts start or your contract will be terminated immediately and on another part of the same SBC tenders contract it states that these things should be lodged with them before they will even consider you for a tender..which is it?? And....its up to us to pay for new Disclosures at £23 a throw even though the ones we already have are perfectly fine and do not have expiry date on them..simply because they are only accurate at the time of issue... Strange world..

Author:	toots [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:22 am ]
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Quote: also Proof of some driver training (Though it doesnt say which training) Well if you're really lucky you'll get the Brummie School of Taxi Training

Author:	skippy41 [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:53 am ]
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bloodnock wrote: skippy41 wrote: It is Alleged that Scottish Borders Council are to introduce the requirement for all drivers that undertake school contracts to have a medical. They have forgoten one thing if true, because they have, or about to introduce this requirment, they must pay for them they are also going to insist on drivers having an enhanced Disclosure scotland document under 3 years old and also Proof of some driver training (Though it doesnt say which training) this isnt the taxi Licensing that insists on it, they are more relaxed....its the School transport dept of the same council. funny that they could not have told us all this months or weeks ago but instead tell us on the day some of the transport tenders plop through the letter box with only 4 weeks til the new school terms start. even then theres a conflict within their new "must haves" where they say that these things must be supplied no later 8 weeks after the contracts start or your contract will be terminated immediately and on another part of the same SBC tenders contract it states that these things should be lodged with them before they will even consider you for a tender..which is it?? And....its up to us to pay for new Disclosures at £23 a throw even though the ones we already have are perfectly fine and do not have expiry date on them..simply because they are only accurate at the time of issue... Strange world.. Apparently due to the reorganisation they have moved everything to Parker towers, and the fact there is a new guy in the transport department is it any wonder the whole thing is fecked up They are trying to say this was introduced by the Scottish Parliament what a load of balls is them trying to get more money out of the owners/ drivers if a driver or owner goes ill or has to go away normally they get another company to cover the contract, this can no longer happen if that driver has not got an up to date discloser or a medical and what about the points system. Mind you it does not matter relay as only 2 company's in zone 2 are getting contracts and its feck the rest time as usual

Author:	skippy41 [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:25 pm ]
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The Rumour is true I have just received half the rain forest in a bumper bundle of contracts available. Enclosed was a letter from the council that a meeting will be held on Thursday 30 th of July at 11.30 Am at Parker towers Newtown st Boswells to clarify any queries within the altered and new schedule 2 conditions of contract vehicles and drivers. 33, The contractor must ensure that all drivers are fit and proper to deliver the services described in schedule 1, To ensure this the council contract manager must see a valid original enhanced disclosure through DS and a valid medical certificate, which will then be logged on the council passenger data base, once logged drivers can operate any council contract over the next 3 years period. failure to complete this requirement within the first 8 weeks of the start of the contract will result in the contract being withdrawn from the contractor with immediate effect. The council reserves the right to determine whether an individual is, or is not a suitable person to drive vehicles on transport contracts, and to notify the contractor of this decision in writing. After receipt of such notice the contractor shall not continue to employ that driver on journeys which operate on contract to the council. The council shall be under no obligation to give reasons for there decision After 3 years of being on the council passenger transport database contractors and drivers will be randomly asked to provide a new EDS checks or medical certificate failure to supply this will lead to the driver being removed from the contract. What a load of Balls, if a driver or operator has already been licenced they have already had an enhanced discloser done and they don't require a medical until they reach 60 If there licenced they are fit and proper FFS

Author:	gusmac [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:08 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: If there licenced they are fit and proper FFS Another way to look at this is that one part of your council is saying that another isn't doing it's job properly

Author:	grandad [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:48 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: The Rumour is true I have just received half the rain forest in a bumper bundle of contracts available. Enclosed was a letter from the council that a meeting will be held on Thursday 30 th of July at 11.30 Am at Parker towers Newtown st Boswells to clarify any queries within the altered and new schedule 2 conditions of contract vehicles and drivers. 33, The contractor must ensure that all drivers are fit and proper to deliver the services described in schedule 1, To ensure this the council contract manager must see a valid original enhanced disclosure through DS and a valid medical certificate, which will then be logged on the council passenger data base, once logged drivers can operate any council contract over the next 3 years period. failure to complete this requirement within the first 8 weeks of the start of the contract will result in the contract being withdrawn from the contractor with immediate effect. The council reserves the right to determine whether an individual is, or is not a suitable person to drive vehicles on transport contracts, and to notify the contractor of this decision in writing. After receipt of such notice the contractor shall not continue to employ that driver on journeys which operate on contract to the council. The council shall be under no obligation to give reasons for there decision After 3 years of being on the council passenger transport database contractors and drivers will be randomly asked to provide a new EDS checks or medical certificate failure to supply this will lead to the driver being removed from the contract. What a load of Balls, if a driver or operator has already been licenced they have already had an enhanced discloser done and they don't require a medical until they reach 60 If there licenced they are fit and proper FFS Do I take it that you won't be complying then Skippy?

Author:	skippy41 [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:57 pm ]
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Quote: Do I take it that you won't be complying then Skippy? _________________ Grandad, old fart with no heart They can stuff there contracts, I have never done any and going by the list quite a few 6 seater's are required this year, 286 contracts available 141 are 6 seat ones. And in some booster seats are required and the operator must supply them this year, there is one where 5 is required for 1 contract. I think this new guy in the transport department has lost the plot but hopefully he will get the message next Thursday

Author:	bloodnock [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:00 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: Quote: Do I take it that you won't be complying then Skippy? _________________ Grandad, old fart with no heart They can stuff there contracts, I have never done any and going by the list quite a few 6 seater's are required this year, 286 contracts available 141 are 6 seat ones. And in some booster seats are required and the operator must supply them this year, there is one where 5 is required for 1 contract. I think this new guy in the transport department has lost the plot but hopefully he will get the message next Thursday How come ive only been sent 97 of the contracts available which came in 2 packs..wheres the other 189??

Author:	skippy41 [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:21 am ]
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bloodnock wrote: skippy41 wrote: Quote: Do I take it that you won't be complying then Skippy? _________________ Grandad, old fart with no heart They can stuff there contracts, I have never done any and going by the list quite a few 6 seater's are required this year, 286 contracts available 141 are 6 seat ones. And in some booster seats are required and the operator must supply them this year, there is one where 5 is required for 1 contract. I think this new guy in the transport department has lost the plot but hopefully he will get the message next Thursday How come ive only been sent 97 of the contracts available which came in 2 packs..wheres the other 189?? Mine came in 1 and the posty had to knock the door as it was to big for the letter box, FFS I don't remember ordering the entire encyclopedia Britannica all 36 volumes

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Author:	Jasbar [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:01 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: The Rumour is true I have just received half the rain forest in a bumper bundle of contracts available. Enclosed was a letter from the council that a meeting will be held on Thursday 30 th of July at 11.30 Am at Parker towers Newtown st Boswells to clarify any queries within the altered and new schedule 2 conditions of contract vehicles and drivers. 33, The contractor must ensure that all drivers are fit and proper to deliver the services described in schedule 1, To ensure this the council contract manager must see a valid original enhanced disclosure through DS and a valid medical certificate, which will then be logged on the council passenger data base, once logged drivers can operate any council contract over the next 3 years period. failure to complete this requirement within the first 8 weeks of the start of the contract will result in the contract being withdrawn from the contractor with immediate effect. The council reserves the right to determine whether an individual is, or is not a suitable person to drive vehicles on transport contracts, and to notify the contractor of this decision in writing. After receipt of such notice the contractor shall not continue to employ that driver on journeys which operate on contract to the council. The council shall be under no obligation to give reasons for there decision After 3 years of being on the council passenger transport database contractors and drivers will be randomly asked to provide a new EDS checks or medical certificate failure to supply this will lead to the driver being removed from the contract. What a load of Balls, if a driver or operator has already been licenced they have already had an enhanced discloser done and they don't require a medical until they reach 60 If there licenced they are fit and proper FFS This is bureaucracy gone mad. You should work to build a boycot of council contracts, launched by parking up in front of council offices. Councils in Scotland have developed into little more than fascists. It's time they were reined in.