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Author:  captain cab [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:31 pm ]
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London - Officials further extended no-fly restrictions over Europe on Saturday as a vast, invisible plume of grit continued to billow out of an Icelandic volcano and drift across the continent.

The flight ban seemed likely to disrupt world leaders' plans to attend Sunday's state funeral for Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife Maria in the southern city of Krakow.

South Korean Prime Minister Chung Un-chan was the first to announce he was cancelling his trip to Poland. An 11-member delegation led by Chung had planned to leave on Saturday, said Shin Bu-seop, an official of the prime minister's office.

So far, President Barack Obama, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and German Chancellor Angela Merkel are still on the list of attendees.

Kaczynski's family insisted on Friday they wanted the funeral to go forward as planned but there was no denying the ash cloud was moving south and east.

On Saturday, British officials extended their closure of airspace until at least 01:00 on Sunday, and reintroduced the ban over Scotland and northern England. The Belgian, French and Swiss governments extended their ban until the same time.

Italian aviation authorities were closing airspace in northern Italy on Saturday until midday, with airports in Milan and Venice to close.

Germany shut down all of its international airports, including Munich and Frankfurt, Europe's third-busiest terminal, until at least 14:00 (12:00 GMT; 08:00 EDT). National carrier Lufthansa said it was cancelling all flights through 20:00 (18:00GMT; 14:00 EDT) on Saturday.

Serbia also closed a small strip of its airspace in the north of the country and said it could close more later.

Highly abrasive ash

Australia's Qantas cancelled all flights to Europe on Saturday, and passengers were being offered refunds or seats on the next available flight. The airline said it was not known when flights would resume. Cathay Pacific was already cancelling some Europe-bound flights leaving Hong Kong on Sunday.

Fears that microscopic particles of highly abrasive ash could endanger passengers by causing aircraft engines to fail have shut down airspace at one time or another over much of Europe in recent days.

"I've been flying for 40 years but I've never seen anything like this in Europe," said Swedish pilot Axel Alegren, after landing his flight from Kabul, Afghanistan, at Munich Airport; he had been due to land at Frankfurt but was diverted.

"What we're experiencing is very, very unique. Basically Europe is turning into a no-fly zone right now, like the US after 9/11," Alegren said. "It's going to be chaos in the next few days but it will also be something that nobody will ever forget in aviation."

The air traffic agency Eurocontrol said about 16 000 of Europe's usual 28 000 daily flights were cancelled - twice as many as were cancelled a day earlier.

US airlines cancelled 280 of the more than 330 trans-Atlantic flights of a normal day, and about 60 flights between Asia and Europe were cancelled.

The International Air Transport Association says the volcano is costing the industry at least $200 million a day.

Southern Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull (ay-yah-FYAH'-plah-yer-kuh-duhl) volcano began erupting for the second time in a month on Wednesday, sending ash several kilometres into the air. Winds pushed the plume south and east across Britain, Ireland, Scandinavia and into the heart of Europe.

Grey ash settled in drifts near the glacier, swirling in the air and turning day into night. Authorities told people in the area with respiratory problems to stay indoors, and advised everyone to wear masks and protective goggles outside.

In major European cities, travel chaos reigned. Extra trains were put on in Amsterdam and lines to buy train tickets were so long that the rail company handed out free coffee.

Train operator Eurostar said it was carrying almost 50 000 passengers between London, Paris and Brussels. Thalys, a high-speed venture of the French, Belgian and German rail companies, was allowing passengers to buy tickets even if trains were fully booked.

Ferry operators in Britain received a flurry of bookings from people desperate to cross the English Channel to France, while London taxi company Addison Lee said it had received requests for journeys to cities as far away as Paris, Milan, Amsterdam and Zurich.

The disruptions hit tourists, business travellers and dignitaries alike.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel had to go to Portugal rather than Berlin as she flew home from a US visit. Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg managed to get a flight to Madrid from New York but was still not sure when or how he would get back home.

The military also had to adjust. Five German soldiers wounded in Afghanistan were diverted to Turkey instead of Germany, while US medical evacuations for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are being flown directly from the warfronts to Washington rather than to a care facility in Germany. The US military has also stopped using temporarily closed air bases in the UK and Germany.

Aviation experts said it was among the worst disruptions Europe has ever seen.

In Iceland, torrents of water carried away chunks of ice the size of small houses on Thursday as hot gases melted the glacier over the volcano. Sections of the country's main ring road were wiped out by the flash floods.

More floods from melting waters are expected as long as the volcano keeps erupting - and in 1821, the same volcano managed to erupt for more than a year.

Small amounts of ash settled in northern Scotland and Norway, but officials said it posed little threat to health.

Iceland, a nation of 320 000 people, sits on a large volcanic hot spot in the Atlantic's mid-oceanic ridge and has a history of devastating eruptions. One of the worst was the 1783 eruption of the Laki volcano, which spewed a toxic cloud over Europe, killing tens of thousands.

Associated Press Writers Naomi Koppel in London, Geir Moulson in Berlin, Angela Charlton in Paris, Raf Casert in Brussels, Slobodan Lekic in Munich and Kwang-Tae Kim in Seoul, South Korea, contributed to this report.

source: http://www.news24.com/World/News/

Author:  captain cab [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:34 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:

while London taxi company Addison Lee said it had received requests for journeys to cities as far away as Paris, Milan, Amsterdam and Zurich.

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Can you see that GBC????? can you, can you???? diabolical liberty them being called that if you ask me.

That aside, I wonder how many of their 'drivers' will nip off for a quick visit home :lol:

CC

Author:  skippy41 [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:15 pm ]
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How many drivers that work the airports are feeling it especially all those idiots who pay a fee for doing so

Author:  edders23 [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:19 pm ]
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Why don't you put a complaint in to the press complaints organisation then CC :?:


This is a one off event skippy you cannot anticipate circumstances like these I'm sure under normal circumstances those drivers would have expected their investment to pay them a living

Author:  edders23 [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:44 pm ]
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And just to sound an even bleaker note apparently every time this current volcano goes off a much bigger one to the east also blows and that one has been showing signs of increased activity for over 10 years :sad:

Author:  Sussex [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:26 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote:
How many drivers that work the airports are feeling it especially all those idiots who pay a fee for doing so

I would imagine the drivers at Gatwick are well and truly f***ed. :shock:

No other work than the airport means no money until those planes start flying again. :sad:

Author:  cabbyman [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:55 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
And just to sound an even bleaker note apparently every time this current volcano goes off a much bigger one to the east also blows and that one has been showing signs of increased activity for over 10 years :sad:


We have an unusual NWly airflow at the moment. The early establishment of an anticyclone this year is part of the problem.

Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:44 am ]
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edders23 wrote:
And just to sound an even bleaker note apparently every time this current volcano goes off a much bigger one to the east also blows and that one has been showing signs of increased activity for over 10 years :sad:

As the man said, "I wish my missus had . . . ."

:wink:

Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:47 am ]
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cabbyman wrote:
edders23 wrote:
And just to sound an even bleaker note apparently every time this current volcano goes off a much bigger one to the east also blows and that one has been showing signs of increased activity for over 10 years :sad:

We have an unusual NWly airflow at the moment. The early establishment of an anticyclone this year is part of the problem.

Would that be a clockwise one or anti-clockwise?

Author:  cabbyman [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:26 am ]
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Clockwise, high pressure.

See www.westwind.ch and select UKMO Bracknell 0-10d, all; for forecast charts for the north atlantic.

Not a lot of change in the offing as far as wind direction is concerned!!

Author:  Derby Ram [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:31 am ]
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I know there is naff all anyone can do about the situation but it is starting to lose me serious money now.Should have been at Humberside Airport this morning and was taking one to Heathrow this afto. :cry:
Looks like I will have to go back on the ranks for a few days,weeks or however chuffin' long it's gonna take.
Regards
Steve

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:16 pm ]
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I just cannot believe folk are "stranded" in spain, italy and holland even, there was euopean travel long before cheap flights, coaches/trains are still there, some seem to have sat on thier arses waiting for the flights to restart

that volcano blew for 2 years last time


at least its cut down on illegal immigration and drug smuggling

Author:  grandad [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:54 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I just cannot believe folk are "stranded" in spain, italy and holland even, there was euopean travel long before cheap flights, coaches/trains are still there, some seem to have sat on thier arses waiting for the flights to restart



One of the problems has been that the airlines have not been able to give out information to far in advance. I know Ryanair have been cancelling flights days in advance but some of the other airlines have been giving less than 12 hours notice so passengers don't know where they stand.
Also Eurostar is not easy to get a ticket for now and the cost of one has gone through the roof. Some of the ferry company's have stopped taking bookings and you have to just turn up and hope you can get on. It is all a bit of a mess.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:04 pm ]
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On a good note

Drug smuggling and illegal immigration is down 90%

Author:  Sussex [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:15 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I just cannot believe folk are "stranded" in spain, italy and holland even, there was euopean travel long before cheap flights, coaches/trains are still there, some seem to have sat on thier arses waiting for the flights to restart

I think the problem is that the powers that be kept on giving new shot-term time scales which in turn didn't happen.

How many times did they say the ban only stays in place till 1.00am or 7.00am etc. Folks took that to mean it was going to be sorted, when it was only another review time.

Therefore those folks were, in a way miss-led. They should have been told 'nothing is going to happen for days, do your best'. Not a fan of the mush from Ryan Air, but at least he said his flights would be cancelled for days on end.

Also one of the reasons why folks didn't make it back is because they didn't have the cash to pay over the top for the other routes.

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