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| Author: | Jasbar [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
In December 2007 the Scottish Government issued its Best Practice Guide for councils in respect of taxi licensing:- Section 8 stated: Licensing requirements which are unduly stringent will tend unreasonably to restrict the supply of taxi and PHC services, by putting up the cost of operation or otherwise restricting entry to the trade. Local licensing authorities should recognise that too stringent an approach may not be in the public interest - and could, indeed, have safety implications. Section 9 added: For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions,, .... ..... then that person's safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire. City of Edinburgh Council ignored this best practice Guide, and continued its policy to restrict taxis. Council Solicitor Robert Millar was a member of the working party which compiled the Best Practice criteria. He knew about them - both when the council raitified its policy to restrict in November 2007 and later when the council was refusing licence applications. Sexual assault #1 In August 2008 a 26-year-old woman suffered a serious sexual assault after being picked up in the city centre by a possible bogus private hire car driver. The victim had left the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street at the west end at around 2.15am on Sunday August 17 and got into the dark-coloured saloon. She was driven from there to Brunstane Road South, where the man is believed to have assaulted her within the vehicle. The suspect in that particular incident was described as black, 35 to 40 years old, medium build, with black short hair and a round face. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Jim/My%20Documents/EdinburgRapes.htm This incident reflects the specific circumstances warned about, indeed "predicted", in the Best Practice Guide - he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire (Section 9). This is precisely what happened. Yet, Edinburgh's Council deliberately ignored the Scottish Government's warning. This female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide. Sexual Assault #2 In February 2009 the same thing happened again. Once again a female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide. http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Woma ... 6171988.jp This time the perpetrator was apprehended and brought to justice. Trial Judge Lady Smith said, "What she needed was a taxi to uplift her and take her safely back to the hostel where she was staying". For the SECOND time, Edinburgh's Council has deliberately ignored the Scottish Government's warning and stoically maintains its policy of artificially restricting the supply of taxis. City of Edinburgh Council does this to prop up its own transport interests, as well as the BLACKMARKET in taxi licence plates to protect vested interests, which compromises public safety. Conclusion No council can be deemed to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything possible to protect the public's safety. Artificially restricting the supply of taxis, making it more difficult than necessary to engage one, falls well below this simple benchmark. City of Edinburgh Council, in its failure to protect the public in these cases because of its failure to adopt and enact the Scottish Government's Best Practice Guide, is directly responsible and culpable for what befell these two vulnerable females. City of Edinburgh Council should be held accountable NOW! |
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| Author: | tx_op [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
Jasbar wrote: City of Edinburgh Council should be held accountable NOW![/b] And who do WE hold accountable for you ?? Learn the words of a new song plz.....
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| Author: | gogsagain [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
Jasbar wrote: In December 2007 the Scottish Government issued its Best Practice Guide for councils in respect of taxi licensing:-
Section 8 stated: Licensing requirements which are unduly stringent will tend unreasonably to restrict the supply of taxi and PHC services, by putting up the cost of operation or otherwise restricting entry to the trade. Local licensing authorities should recognise that too stringent an approach may not be in the public interest - and could, indeed, have safety implications. Section 9 added: For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions,, .... ..... then that person's safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire. City of Edinburgh Council ignored this best practice Guide, and continued its policy to restrict taxis. Council Solicitor Robert Millar was a member of the working party which compiled the Best Practice criteria. He knew about them - both when the council raitified its policy to restrict in November 2007 and later when the council was refusing licence applications. Sexual assault #1 In August 2008 a 26-year-old woman suffered a serious sexual assault after being picked up in the city centre by a possible bogus private hire car driver. The victim had left the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street at the west end at around 2.15am on Sunday August 17 and got into the dark-coloured saloon. She was driven from there to Brunstane Road South, where the man is believed to have assaulted her within the vehicle. The suspect in that particular incident was described as black, 35 to 40 years old, medium build, with black short hair and a round face. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Jim/My%20Documents/EdinburgRapes.htm This incident reflects the specific circumstances warned about, indeed "predicted", in the Best Practice Guide - he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire (Section 9). This is precisely what happened. Yet, Edinburgh's Council deliberately ignored the Scottish Government's warning. This female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide. Sexual Assault #2 In February 2009 the same thing happened again. Once again a female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide. http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Woma ... 6171988.jp This time the perpetrator was apprehended and brought to justice. Trial Judge Lady Smith said, "What she needed was a taxi to uplift her and take her safely back to the hostel where she was staying". For the SECOND time, Edinburgh's Council has deliberately ignored the Scottish Government's warning and stoically maintains its policy of artificially restricting the supply of taxis. City of Edinburgh Council does this to prop up its own transport interests, as well as the BLACKMARKET in taxi licence plates to protect vested interests, which compromises public safety. Conclusion No council can be deemed to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything possible to protect the public's safety. Artificially restricting the supply of taxis, making it more difficult than necessary to engage one, falls well below this simple benchmark. City of Edinburgh Council, in its failure to protect the public in these cases because of its failure to adopt and enact the Scottish Government's Best Practice Guide, is directly responsible and culpable for what befell these two vulnerable females. City of Edinburgh Council should be held accountable NOW! Aberdeen did away with the limit on plates a few years ago. Since then, if anything, unlicensed cars and taxis from outwith the city have increased. On the other hand Aberdeeenshire hand out licenses to anyone and just recently a driver, refused a license by the city because of a previous sex crime conviction, was charged with raping a teenage girl. What I'm saying is regardless of what you do you will still have predatory guys preying on vulnerable women using the cover of a 'taxi' to do this. The more controls you have over licensed drivers will at least help minimise this. Another thing, at busy times you will always struggle to meet demand. If you meet demand at these times what the hell do you do with the taxis at quiet times. In Aberdeen we have queues of taxis on fridays and even most saturdays and it is dire at other times YET we still have the pirates crawling the streets. |
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:27 pm ] |
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What if next time, (and there will be a next time) some wee lassie is raped and murdered? Who will be to blame?
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
gogsagain wrote: Jasbar wrote: In December 2007 the Scottish Government issued its Best Practice Guide for councils in respect of taxi licensing:- Section 8 stated: Licensing requirements which are unduly stringent will tend unreasonably to restrict the supply of taxi and PHC services, by putting up the cost of operation or otherwise restricting entry to the trade. Local licensing authorities should recognise that too stringent an approach may not be in the public interest - and could, indeed, have safety implications. Section 9 added: For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions,, .... ..... then that person's safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire. City of Edinburgh Council ignored this best practice Guide, and continued its policy to restrict taxis. Council Solicitor Robert Millar was a member of the working party which compiled the Best Practice criteria. He knew about them - both when the council raitified its policy to restrict in November 2007 and later when the council was refusing licence applications. Sexual assault #1 In August 2008 a 26-year-old woman suffered a serious sexual assault after being picked up in the city centre by a possible bogus private hire car driver. The victim had left the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street at the west end at around 2.15am on Sunday August 17 and got into the dark-coloured saloon. She was driven from there to Brunstane Road South, where the man is believed to have assaulted her within the vehicle. The suspect in that particular incident was described as black, 35 to 40 years old, medium build, with black short hair and a round face. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Jim/My%20Documents/EdinburgRapes.htm This incident reflects the specific circumstances warned about, indeed "predicted", in the Best Practice Guide - he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire (Section 9). This is precisely what happened. Yet, Edinburgh's Council deliberately ignored the Scottish Government's warning. This female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide. Sexual Assault #2 In February 2009 the same thing happened again. Once again a female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide. http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Woma ... 6171988.jp This time the perpetrator was apprehended and brought to justice. Trial Judge Lady Smith said, "What she needed was a taxi to uplift her and take her safely back to the hostel where she was staying". For the SECOND time, Edinburgh's Council has deliberately ignored the Scottish Government's warning and stoically maintains its policy of artificially restricting the supply of taxis. City of Edinburgh Council does this to prop up its own transport interests, as well as the BLACKMARKET in taxi licence plates to protect vested interests, which compromises public safety. Conclusion No council can be deemed to be protecting public safety unless and until it has done everything possible to protect the public's safety. Artificially restricting the supply of taxis, making it more difficult than necessary to engage one, falls well below this simple benchmark. City of Edinburgh Council, in its failure to protect the public in these cases because of its failure to adopt and enact the Scottish Government's Best Practice Guide, is directly responsible and culpable for what befell these two vulnerable females. City of Edinburgh Council should be held accountable NOW! Aberdeen did away with the limit on plates a few years ago. Since then, if anything, unlicensed cars and taxis from outwith the city have increased. On the other hand Aberdeeenshire hand out licenses to anyone and just recently a driver, refused a license by the city because of a previous sex crime conviction, was charged with raping a teenage girl. What I'm saying is regardless of what you do you will still have predatory guys preying on vulnerable women using the cover of a 'taxi' to do this. The more controls you have over licensed drivers will at least help minimise this. Another thing, at busy times you will always struggle to meet demand. If you meet demand at these times what the hell do you do with the taxis at quiet times. In Aberdeen we have queues of taxis on fridays and even most saturdays and it is dire at other times YET we still have the pirates crawling the streets. Do you have a dedicated Hack WAV fleet in Aberdeen Travis, sorry I meant to say gogsagain? |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
gogsagain wrote: Aberdeen did away with the limit on plates a few years ago. Since then, if anything, unlicensed cars and taxis from outwith the city have increased. On the other hand Aberdeeenshire hand out licenses to anyone and just recently a driver, refused a license by the city because of a previous sex crime conviction, was charged with raping a teenage girl.
What I'm saying is regardless of what you do you will still have predatory guys preying on vulnerable women using the cover of a 'taxi' to do this. The more controls you have over licensed drivers will at least help minimise this. Another thing, at busy times you will always struggle to meet demand. If you meet demand at these times what the hell do you do with the taxis at quiet times. In Aberdeen we have queues of taxis on fridays and even most saturdays and it is dire at other times YET we still have the pirates crawling the streets. The increase in pirates here has more to do with the cost of providing a WAV and the difficulty gaining a badge in Aberdeen. As you say, the neighbouring shire council dish them out like sweeties and will license anything with wheels. Capping Aberdeen's numbers would only make the problem worse. |
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| Author: | tx_op [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
gusmac wrote: Capping Aberdeen's numbers would only make the problem worse. I take it Aberdeen's Cab's Enforcement Officer's are nowhere to be seen at peak times ?? |
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
tx_op wrote: gusmac wrote: Capping Aberdeen's numbers would only make the problem worse. I take it Aberdeen's Cab's Enforcement Officer's are nowhere to be seen at peak times ?? Try reading Jim's post from the beginning, paying special attention to the Bold type. Now what don't you understand, fecwit?
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| Author: | tx_op [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
Skull wrote: Try reading Jim's post from the beginning, paying special attention to the Bold type. Now what don't you understand, fecwit? ![]() 1. The question was not to you... 2. Why do you always display a personna that lacks common etiquette ? 3. I'll be in Edinburgh on Tuesday if you fancy a cuppa to discuss anything regarding the Trade..... |
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| Author: | Skull [ Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
tx_op wrote: Skull wrote: Try reading Jim's post from the beginning, paying special attention to the Bold type. Now what don't you understand, fecwit? ![]() 1. The question was not to you... 2. Why do you always display a personna that lacks common etiquette ? 3. I'll be in Edinburgh on Tuesday if you fancy a cuppa to discuss anything regarding the Trade..... O7774060943, it's just the way I am. What you see is what you get, I look forward to our coffee
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| Author: | Frank Lay [ Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:47 am ] |
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Oh jimmy boy, Back to your favourite subject again, Is rape and sexual assault all you can talk about now? It is starting to get a bit creepy, worrying even. |
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:50 am ] |
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Frank Lay wrote: Oh jimmy boy,
Back to your favourite subject again, Is rape and sexual assault all you can talk about now? It is starting to get a bit creepy, worrying even. Only in your mind Frank. Only in your tiny mind.
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| Author: | gusmac [ Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
tx_op wrote: gusmac wrote: Capping Aberdeen's numbers would only make the problem worse. I take it Aberdeen's Cab's Enforcement Officer's are nowhere to be seen at peak times ?? You got it in 1 |
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| Author: | tx_op [ Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
Skull wrote: it's just the way I am. What you see is what you get, ![]() Reminds me of me !.....B in touch......
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| Author: | tx_op [ Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CEC - Best Practice Ignored - females sexually assaulted |
gusmac wrote: You got it in 1 I dunno about Aberdeen but, in Dundee the Cab's Officer's are never out in the evening any day of the week ! they finish at at 3.00pm, this is after the Trade payed for an additional officer (through increased licence fee) to have both access and a presence a.m/p.m...
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