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Author:  Jasbar [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  TAXI TALK / Wayne Casey - Rape is "reasonable"
"... in so far as I am aware ECC carry out surveys and are reasonably transparent" - Wayne Casey.

So Wayne, as long as the council does a survey, rape is "reasonable". Yes?

Doesn't matter that the Scottish Government's Best Practice Guide was designed to warn councils so that the public can be protected. Do a survey, ignore Best Practice, and the council is covered.

I can see it now.

The council's QC says, "I submit M'Lud, that you should dismiss our victim's case. The council did a survey. It acted reasonably, M'Lud. The sexual assault here was therefore legally "reasonable". After all M'Lud, Taxi Talk / Wayne Casey explicitly said so. And Wayne Casey is an honourable man." :lol:


BTW

Thanks Wayne.

"I didn't write Scotch in the original article, I wrote Scots, I presume the editor of the magazine thought it might get up your nose" - Wayne Casey.

Wayne, you have kindly admitted that the article was co-written by the editor. This puts Taxi Talk in the frame.

Now, should we write to all of the magazine's advertisers and tell them that Taxi Talk / Wayne Casey says that rape is "reasonable"?

Should we ask them whether they can afford for their business to be "promoted" in a magazine with the editorial view that "rape is reasonable"?

Keep restriction at all costs, never mind public safety.

Dearie me. :roll:
Author:  Skull [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:24 am ]
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Poor auld Wayne.

Poor NTA.

Image

Wayne, you are a star :roll: :lol: :D
Author:  captain cab [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:30 am ]
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Utter drivel wee crankie, you're bandwagon jumping again, a survey of demand has nothing to do with rape as you well know.

As I said in another thread, you are in my opinion mentally disturbed, I think if I licensed you I'd seek assurances of your fitness from a decent shrink .

I wonder if ECC have thought of this?

That aside London is deregulated yet from memory there are more rapes there than in any other City.........can you explain that one for us please?



CC
Author:  Jasbar [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:06 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
Utter drivel wee crankie, you're bandwagon jumping again, a survey of demand has nothing to do with rape as you well know.

As I said in another thread, you are in my opinion mentally disturbed, I think if I licensed you I'd seek assurances of your fitness from a decent shrink .

I wonder if ECC have thought of this?

That aside London is deregulated yet from memory there are more rapes there than in any other City.........can you explain that one for us please?



CC



So Wayne, representing Taxi Talk and the NTA, you think that as long as the council does a survey it can ignore best practice and the rapes aren't its fault. Rape is therefore reasonable.

Lady Smith was wrong to point out that the victim needed a taxi and couldn't get one.

As for London being de-regulated, you of all people should know that it is as heavily regulated as elsewhere in the country. What it doesn't have is an artificial restriction of the number of operating taxis.

Now pay attention and I'll explain it to you again. No council can claim to be protecting public safety, as charged to do, unless and until it has done everything it can to protect the public and promote its safety.

Restricting taxi licences, making it more difficult than necessary to hail one to prop up the flse plate value for vested interests, falls well below the mark.

London can claim it has done everything in respect of taxi licensing it can to protect the public, restricting councils like Edinburgh can't.

Couple this failure with its ignoring Best Practice which warns what can happen if licences are artificially restricted, and the fact that rapes did happen, then what we have is the potential for legal suit.

Now Wayne, what view do you think a Judge would take on this matter?

I'll ignore the personal attacks. Except to ay that if you were "representing" me I wouldn't be best pleased to see you resorting to personal jibes to mask your inability to reason and articulate an argument.

You really need to grow up Wayne.


:roll:
Author:  captain cab [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:25 pm ]
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You are deliberately misrepresenting the truth.

Every area be it regulated or deregulated has periods of demand outstripping supply, every area be it regulated or deregulated has these incidents.

Stick to the Waverley rank and tape recording colleagues

CC
Author:  Jasbar [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:39 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
You are deliberately misrepresenting the truth.

Every area be it regulated or deregulated has periods of demand outstripping supply, every area be it regulated or deregulated has these incidents.

Stick to the Waverley rank and tape recording colleagues

CC


You are avoiding the truth.

The government predicted what can happen when licences are retricted. The council ignored ithe warning. And two females were sexually assaulted. as a direct result.

What part of this don't you understand?

And, for someone who professes to nderstand trade issues, you seem to have some difficulty egading the use of the term regulated.

Authorities without restrictions on licences can claim that they have done their best, if there is still a lack of taxis then it is the market mechanism which has failed to deliver, not the council.

Edinburgh can't claim this. Because it curtails access to taxis long before the market mechanism can kick in.

Remember the council has just refused 92 licences. That's 92 guys who are prepared to be in the marketplace to reduce the chance of a female not being able to hail a taxi and getting hrmed as a result.

Wayne, as DuFresne said to the prison governor in Shawshank, "Are you being deliberately obtuse"?



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Author:  toots [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:50 pm ]
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Quote:
Remember the council has just refused 92 licences. That's 92 guys who are prepared to be in the marketplace to reduce the chance of a female not being able to hail a taxi and getting hrmed as a result.


If those 92 guys still want to help prevent rape they can become PH. As said in the thread I find it objectionable that rape is being used as a means to an end :sad:
Author:  Frank Lay [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:41 pm ]
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jimmy boy,

There are other sites on the internet for people like you, who like to talk about rape constantly.

Give one a try, and give us a rest.
Author:  Skull [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:29 pm ]
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In Wayne's World, it is “reasonable” to ignore the Scottish Government's best practice guide. It is also “reasonable” to carry out a “reasonable” survey and therefore “reasonable” to refuse 92 licence applications. A short time after one vulnerable young female suffers a “reasonable” rape and another, a serious but “reasonable” sexual assault. In exactly the circumstances the best practice guide predicts. It, therefore, must be “reasonable” for the council to defend their decision in court.



Rape is without a shadow of doubt, “reasonable” because Wayne said so.
:roll:
Author:  Frank Lay [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:28 pm ]
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gary,

We know that you like to stick up for jimmy boy,
But even you seem to be struggling to back him up these days.
Author:  Skull [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:48 pm ]
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Frank Lay wrote:
gary,

We know that you like to stick up for jimmy boy,
But even you seem to be struggling to back him up these days.


I don't have to the Scottish Government's Best Practice Guide says it all.

Quote:
if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions,, ....

..... then that person's safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire.


The Scottish Government recognised the potential for what might happen long before we did, the rest is history, until the next time. :shock:
Author:  jimbo [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:14 pm ]
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"Guide"

A member of an organisation for girls that encourages discipline and practical skills.
Author:  jimbo [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:21 pm ]
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Anyone out there, in particular a WAV driver who HAS NOT, repeat has NOT, been sat on a taxi rank outside a nightclub at 0215 of a sunday morning, and have NOT seen a single female totter past you into the road trying to flag down a PH car, or indeed, ANY passing car, not caring for the consequences? Anyone? no, me neither.
Author:  Frank Lay [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:29 pm ]
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Gary,

Surely the practice of allowing a phc company to operate with reduced fares only encourages people to walk pass taxis and try to flag what they think might be a phc car.
Author:  Skull [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:49 pm ]
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jimbo wrote:
"Guide"

A member of an organisation for girls that encourages discipline and practical skills.



Not in this case:
Quote:
if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions,, ....

..... then that person's safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire.


I really can't see the difficulty understanding the blatantly obvious. :?

:roll:

One wee girl was raped the other suffered a serious sexual assault.

If a council restricts the number of Taxis available they increase the potential for some pervert to take advantage of the situation. That's not to say an attack wouldn't happen anyway, but he might choose a different method of operating.

The council isn't supposed to be presenting the pervert with opportunities to do his dirty deeds. :-|

I know Wayne thinks this is acceptable but any "reasonable" person would consider this unreasonable. :wink:
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