Sussex wrote:
"I don't see any benefits to this - because of the way cars are set up now, drivers don't need to speak to their passengers.
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Denbighshire welcome in the 21st Century, at last. |
Denbighshire taxi drivers face knowledge test Taxi drivers in Denbighshire may soon have to take a knowledge test to prove that they know their way around. New applicants and existing holders renewing their licence would also have to demonstrate a reasonable grasp of English under the plans. Denbighshire council's licensing sub-committee is due to discuss introducing the tests for hackney carriage and private hire licence holders. The proposals follow language issues with some new applicants. It is proposed that the test will include questions about local geography and routes, hackney carriage and private hire vehicle conditions, tariffs, the Highway Code, basic vehicle maintenance and customer care skills. According to a report made to the licensing sub-committee, there is a language barrier between some new applicants and passengers. "Officers are receiving an increasing number of applicants who are newly resident in the UK, some of whose ability to understand and communicate with service users needs to be addressed," said the report. "It is for this reason the test is proposed to be carried out verbally, as it is also intended to be a test of the applicants' ability to understand and speak English." Applicants will also be able to take the test in Welsh. New applicants will be eligible for two free attempts at the test, taken a week apart. If they fail twice, they will have to pay £15 for further attempts. The same applies to existing holders, who will be given a monthly badge to carry on working if they fail. If they have not passed the renewal test within six months, they will be referred to the committee. At present all applicants in Denbighshire must have held a driving licence for at least one year, be checked by the Criminal Records Bureau and produce a medical certificate. Other licensing authorities in Wales, including Conwy County Borough Council, already hold knowledge tests. But the plans have met with anger from some local taxi drivers who view them as a money-making ploy. Gary Pottinger of Premier Cars in Llangollen said: "The costs Denbighshire council are imposing will kill the local taxi industry. "I don't see any benefits to this - because of the way cars are set up now, drivers don't need to speak to their passengers. This is just a money-making ploy which will protect their jobs at the council while putting more pressure on taxi firms." Mr Pottinger says the cost of licensing taxis via Denbighshire is so high, he now licenses his through Shropshire Council. He said: "The licences there last for three years whereas the ones in Denbighshire have to be renewed annually. I can save at least a £100 a vehicle just on the plate. I'm running 10 cars so you can see how that cost adds up." Another taxi driver who did not wish to be named said the knowledge tests were just a way of squeezing more money out of taxi drivers. He said: "You can understand it in places like London and Liverpool when there is a lot to see but I don't see the point in places like Rhyl. "The council needs to think instead about the number of licences it hands out. There are about 400 taxis operating in the area and not enough customers so it is affecting our living." |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Denbighshire welcome in the 21st Century, at last. |
Sussex wrote: "I don't see any benefits to this - because of the way cars are set up now, drivers don't need to speak to their passengers.
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:24 pm ] |
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What a stupid statement by Mr pottinger he is more of a clown than me  and that's saying something
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| Author: | toots [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:57 pm ] |
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Quote: "Officers are receiving an increasing number of applicants who are newly resident in the UK, Quote: be checked by the Criminal Records Bureau
Can somebody explain to me how they do this if they are newly resident here 
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| Author: | captain cab [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:59 pm ] |
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toots wrote: Quote: "Officers are receiving an increasing number of applicants who are newly resident in the UK, Quote: be checked by the Criminal Records Bureau Can somebody explain to me how they do this if they are newly resident here Write to the embassy of the applicants resident state. CC |
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| Author: | toots [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:06 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: toots wrote: Quote: "Officers are receiving an increasing number of applicants who are newly resident in the UK, Quote: be checked by the Criminal Records Bureau Can somebody explain to me how they do this if they are newly resident here Write to the embassy of the applicants resident state. CC Even if they came over as assylum seekers? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:10 pm ] |
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toots wrote: Even if they came over as assylum seekers? asylum shurely 
dunno, all an LA can do is act within the advice given by the home office or guidance I suspect. CC |
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| Author: | toots [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:30 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: toots wrote: Even if they came over as assylum seekers? asylum shurely dunno, all an LA can do is act within the advice given by the home office or guidance I suspect. CC I stand corrected I do believe you're right 
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| Author: | Caledonian Cabbie [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:44 pm ] |
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stationtone wrote: What a stupid statement by Mr pottinger....
Not really, he has a fleet of motors and thus likes a supply of cheap labour. When he accuses the council of money making what he really means that the test would stop him money making. 
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:22 pm ] |
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I think your missing the point  S
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| Author: | captain cab [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:44 pm ] |
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stationtone wrote: I think your missing the point
SI think he's being ironic.
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:54 pm ] |
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You are right but he reminds me of a Skull reincarnation 
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| Author: | Caledonian Cabbie [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:57 pm ] |
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stationtone wrote: I think your missing the point
SAs I said to the other CC, I'm all ears |
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| Author: | Stationtone [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:59 pm ] |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:04 am ] |
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Quote: Mr Pottinger says the cost of licensing taxis via Denbighshire is so high, he now licenses his through Shropshire Council. He said: "The licences there last for three years whereas the ones in Denbighshire have to be renewed annually. I can save at least a £100 a vehicle just on the plate. I'm running 10 cars so you can see how that cost adds up."
Wont apply to him then, as hes licenced in Shropshire Wont yn gymwys iddo, yna, fel hes trwyddedig yn Sir Amwythig
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