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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:29 pm 
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As York City Council decided today that the owner of the vehicle is name to go on the licence, these plates were not in fact stolen but just in the wrong names.

Theft is to deprive someone of their own property?
Now one licence is going to be in the right name the owner then the plate can not be stolen


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:55 pm 
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Theft is to deprive someone of their own property?

The definition of theft is "to dishonestly appropriate the property belonging to another, with the intention to permanantly deprive"


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The plate is the property of the local council

The licence was in the wrong name

The licence has now to be registered in the correct name
(due to todays council decission)

So the plate was never stolen in the first place

How many Licences are in the wrong names?

I know it is not 6

Todays meeting means that the person who has lost his plate is down to his last plate now


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:47 pm 
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so what does this really mean ?

have the council just made the loophole slightly smaller ?

as this doesnt seem to address the issue of multiple plate ownership


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This means York Council are sticking to the letter of the law

The licence should have the vehicle owners name on it, and the plate belongs to the licenced vehicle,

York Council will now make sure every licence is in the vehicles owners name,

Those who rent a plate will have to either
1) sell thier vehicle to the plate holder or
2) The original licence holder transfer to an owned vehicle

option 2 will leave a plate renter with a car and no plate

So to protect your own investment is totally understanable to any sensible person


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Hypnotist wrote:
This means York Council are sticking to the letter of the law

The licence should have the vehicle owners name on it, and the plate belongs to the licenced vehicle,

York Council will now make sure every licence is in the vehicles owners name,

Those who rent a plate will have to either
1) sell thier vehicle to the plate holder or
2) The original licence holder transfer to an owned vehicle

option 2 will leave a plate renter with a car and no plate

So to protect your own investment is totally understanable to any sensible person




Those vehicle owners who rent the plate will now get the plate free from the plate owner as it has to go on the renters vehicle, as the vehicle owner may have that car on HP or is not willing to sell
All the council has done is open a bigger can of worms,

Option 2 will means the plate owner is fecked as it has to go on the vehicle that the vehicle owner has registered with the council


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Hypnotist wrote:
This means York Council are sticking to the letter of the law

That is what we have laws for, i.e. for councils to stick to them.

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I wonder how many of these vehicle owner & plate renter v plate owner 'partnerships' will end up in a legal dispute & eventual court case?

Something tells me this ain't over yet.

But it serves them all right for bending the law.

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Plate barons will have to buy vehicles and prove that they own the said vehicles, plates that are on the drivers car will have to be transferred to that car. Unfortunately its the only legal way round it and therefore means that some drivers who have bought cars on HP will either have to go PH or rent the same plate on the owners car. Rents may go up cos the plate owner has had to fork out for a car and he gonna want that money back and they may be double driven now. Apparently some plate owners have bought cars and transferred the plates to those cars and are now allegedly selling those cars to the drivers by increasing their rent ! Unfortunately, because that driver is 'buying the car' he also becomes responsible for its maintainance and running costs ! Another way the plate owners have found to wriggle out of maintaining what are supposed to be their own vehicles. Im guessing that ownership of the vehicle wont be transferred to the driver until its paid for, by which time the plate owner will buy another vehicle, transfer his plate to that and arrange to sell that vehicle to the driver on similiar terms. Driver could end up with a garden full of clapped out cars that he has paid for and maintained at his own expense while still paying for the one he is driving. just goes to show the extremes to which some unscrupulous people will go to save and make money.


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Plate barons will have to buy vehicles and prove that they own the said vehicles, plates that are on the drivers car will have to be transferred to that car. Unfortunately its the only legal way round it and therefore means that some drivers who have bought cars on HP will either have to go PH or rent the same plate on the owners car. Rents may go up cos the plate owner has had to fork out for a car and he gonna want that money back and they may be double driven now. Apparently some plate owners have bought cars and transferred the plates to those cars and are now allegedly selling those cars to the drivers by increasing their rent ! Unfortunately, because that driver is 'buying the car' he also becomes responsible for its maintainance and running costs ! Another way the plate owners have found to wriggle out of maintaining what are supposed to be their own vehicles. Im guessing that ownership of the vehicle wont be transferred to the driver until its paid for, by which time the plate owner will buy another vehicle, transfer his plate to that and arrange to sell that vehicle to the driver on similiar terms. Driver could end up with a garden full of clapped out cars that he has paid for and maintained at his own expense while still paying for the one he is driving. just goes to show the extremes to which some unscrupulous people will go to save and make money.

But that's they way it happens in every other council.

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