Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Sun May 03, 2026 6:29 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 30 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:11 pm
Posts: 8119
Location: A Villa in Aston NO MORE!
As I have mentioned in previous posts a Licensing Authority can attach a reasonable condition to a PH Operator Licence banning the use of the words 'Taxi', 'Cab' or 'For Hire' in any notice, sign or advertisement to promote a PH business.

At today's Licensing Committee meeting in Brum the following condition on A PH Operator Licence is expected to be approved;

21. No notice, sign or advertisement seeking to advertise or promote your business of a private hire operator, wherever it is displayed, shall consist of or include the words “TAXI” or “CAB” or “For Hire” whether in the singular or plural, or any words or devices which give any indication that the service to which the notice, sign or advertisement relates is that which can only be provided by a licensed Hackney Carriage.

And that's the way to do it!!

_________________
Kind regards,

Brummie Cabbie.

Type a message, post your news,
Disagree with other members' views;
But please, do have some decorum,
When debating on the TDO Forum.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57358
Location: 1066 Country
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
And that's the way to do it!!

Until challenged that is.

That said this will have no effect on the 100s of non Birmingham PH working Birmingham.

And may of course give them more 'taxi' credence.

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24391
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
what about non-birmingham HACKS who get flagged down in brum.....


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:31 pm
Posts: 1761
Location: Commonsense Country
Does that extend to the trading names of PH operators whom by the virtue of the fact they have a single HC working from that office can legally advertise their business using the work taxi.
In the past I advocated that should be reversed so that if a single PH was being operated, that subjected the owner to aquire a PH Operators Licence that the business should NOT be allowed to use the word Taxi or Taxis within their trading name.

_________________
"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
Wasn't there a case in York where the word Cab was used in the trading name of a PH company when the council there introduced a similar thing. I do believe she got to keep the trading name.

Personally I've always thought that the word 'taxi' describes what a vehicle does and the word 'cab' is one of the types of vehicles that do it, along with saloons, mini buses and aeroplanes :lol: :wink:

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:58 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24391
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
GA wrote:
Does that extend to the trading names of PH operators whom by the virtue of the fact they have a single HC working from that office can legally advertise their business using the work taxi.
.



Youve answered your own rant....

its the LAW


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24391
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
also, the human eye and brain is a wonderful thing....

Quote:
Arocdnicg to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pcale. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit pobelrm. Tihs is buseace the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24391
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
and thats SOBER....


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:02 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24391
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
Txai!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:31 pm
Posts: 1761
Location: Commonsense Country
wannabeeahack wrote:
GA wrote:
Does that extend to the trading names of PH operators whom by the virtue of the fact they have a single HC working from that office can legally advertise their business using the work taxi.
.



Youve answered your own rant....

its the LAW


Can you read an entire post?
Or do you read the first bit and then get such an erection that you just have to post another load of garbage claiming victory of the argument?

Confirmation of the current law is initially within that particular post, the argument against the current law continues later within it.

The debating skills aren't improving are they ........................ getting better at talking $hite though .......................... :lol:

_________________
"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:31 pm
Posts: 1761
Location: Commonsense Country
If you got a card through your door that said Waynes Taxis and you booked a car using the number printed on it, would you presume that when you saw a car later with Waynes name on it that it was a taxi and could be legally used?

The 76 Act prohibits the use of certain words and phrases in relation to PH, now if there was a case in York regarding the word "cabs" then case law would become relevant to the use of that specific word and not the other words prohibited within the 76 Act.

_________________
"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
Quote:
now if there was a case in York regarding the word "cabs" then case law would become relevant to the use of that specific word and not the other words prohibited within the 76 Act.


Quite right but as brummie said

Quote:
As I have mentioned in previous posts a Licensing Authority can attach a reasonable condition to a PH Operator Licence banning the use of the words 'Taxi', 'Cab' or 'For Hire' in any notice, sign or advertisement to promote a PH business.


I thought it might be relevant. The case in question was Country Cabs v York City Council

Quote:
“For Hire”


I find banning this particular phrase very confusing as the very nature of a private hire business is for the hire of vehicles with drivers albeit privately and pre booked only :?

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24391
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
GA wrote:
If you got a card through your door that said Waynes Taxis and you booked a car using the number printed on it, would you presume that when you saw a car later with Waynes name on it that it was a taxi and could be legally used?


no

Quote:
The 76 Act prohibits the use of certain words and phrases in relation to PH, now if there was a case in York regarding the word "cabs" then case law would become relevant to the use of that specific word and not the other words prohibited within the 76 Act.


before i answer, is there such a case?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24391
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
As the word "Hire" is included in "Private hire" then im happy to say i can use it in any way i see fit, if not i become a "Private" vehicle obviously


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:31 pm
Posts: 1409
Location: Grim North, Carrot Crunchers and Codhead Country, North of Watford Gap
wannabeeahack wrote:
[

before i answer, is there such a case?


scroll down in the link to York
http://www.tapin2taxis.co.uk/court-cases.asp


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 30 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 755 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group