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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:34 pm 
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why just a cab tho, its a limited market, 22000 sales by 2020 is peanuts, thats IF they make em affordable

it proves a LECCY car could work (needing speed and range) if only they embraced all available charging methods, KERS, solar, onboard genny, etc,etc...

the fact is the oil companies will buy it all up and sink it


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GBC come on down, how much does the hydrogen cost at the pumps???


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GBC come on down, how much does the hydrogen cost at the pumps???


Maybe I'm just a cynic but I'll bet it will quickly start to cost more if this idea catches on. :shock:

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GBC come on down, how much does the hydrogen cost at the pumps???


Maybe I'm just a cynic but I'll bet it will quickly start to cost more if this idea catches on. :shock:


when does LPG get its full fuel duty back?


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wannabeeahack wrote:
gusmac wrote:
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GBC come on down, how much does the hydrogen cost at the pumps???


Maybe I'm just a cynic but I'll bet it will quickly start to cost more if this idea catches on. :shock:


when does LPG get its full fuel duty back?


The day I sell my LPG converted cars?

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There is no chance of this vehicle "catching on ". The American government have abandoned Hydrogen car production. It is to expensive. A car the size of a toyota prius has been tested in california, the cost 60,000 per unit. These cabs will cost about 80 grand. Dozens will be on the road for the Olympics but it is just a gimic, and they will be funded by TfL.


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I agree the LTI initiative is a gimmick. As soon as the Olmpics are over the handfull of hydrogen cabs will be pulled.

The technology is sound, but while oil companies continue to lobby and backroll political parties, especially in the US, the chance of getting it to the wider masses is doomed.

If you haven't seen 'Who killed the electric car ?', it's a documentary about how a perfectly viable electric vehicle was deliberatley killed off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed ... ric_Car%3F

I for one am fed up driving around in a cloud of smoke.


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My dad used to tell me about a man he knew who invented an engine that would run on water just after the war. That was bought by a big company and killed off.

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My dad used to tell me about a man he knew who invented an engine that would run on water just after the war. That was bought by a big company and killed off.


The steam engine? :lol:

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My dad used to tell me about a man he knew who invented an engine that would run on water just after the war. That was bought by a big company and killed off.


My boat engine runs on water - if it doesn't it sinks!

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a small turbine which charges batteries....wow, and it took em HOW long to figure that one?

the "jet" engine does not drive the car forward, its simply a generator to charge the batterries and/or provide extra power to the 4 drive motors

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -200K.html


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grandad wrote:
My dad used to tell me about a man he knew who invented an engine that would run on water just after the war. That was bought by a big company and killed off.


there was also an inventor in north America who came up with the same innovation about 10 years ago but it dissapeared again I think it was a sort of fuel cell in which the water was reacted with other chemicals to give off electricity to power the car as to wether it was a practical proposition is another matter I believe the inventor was not prepared to divulge much info


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isnt the theory that electricty can "split" water (H20) into hydrogen and oxygen and the hydrogen can be a fuel source whilst the oxygen is safe to release into the atmosphere?


http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/wat ... 20car2.htm


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this runs for SIX hours on one gallon of u/leaded (£6 say)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Generator-850W-Gr ... 2a0a6df84c

if i had a leccy car which used it as a secondary (standby) charger (mains being first choice) and the batteries were charged then by the genny, thats (at 30mph) 180 miles on £6 of fuel (or just call it 180mpg)....

cant be that simple can it


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