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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:17 pm 
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I wouldn't expect to much work from Edinburgh Waverley and Haymarket Station Ranks in the near future :shock:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -cent.html

But keep paying for your permits. .. :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:01 pm 
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I wouldn't expect to much work from Edinburgh Waverley and Haymarket Station Ranks in the near future :shock:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -cent.html

But keep paying for your permits. .. :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:59 pm 
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BusyTodayCabby wrote:
Skull wrote:
I wouldn't expect to much work from Edinburgh Waverley and Haymarket Station Ranks in the near future :shock:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -cent.html

But keep paying for your permits. .. :roll: :roll:

Gary, where exactly do you rank?



I think you are missing the point George. Why pay for a permit when the work is dwindling away? :-|

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:16 pm 
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Skull wrote:
BusyTodayCabby wrote:
Skull wrote:
I wouldn't expect to much work from Edinburgh Waverley and Haymarket Station Ranks in the near future :shock:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -cent.html

But keep paying for your permits. .. :roll: :roll:

Gary, where exactly do you rank?



I think you are missing the point George. Why pay for a permit when the work is dwindling away? :-|

Gary, you and I don't pay for the permit, our 'masters' are good enough to do that for us. They have not had to cough up for the Haymarket pass for about 3 years. If your professy of another 100 plates comes to fruision that will also dilute the work, will it not?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:58 pm 
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Skull wrote:
BusyTodayCabby wrote:
Skull wrote:
I wouldn't expect to much work from Edinburgh Waverley and Haymarket Station Ranks in the near future :shock:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -cent.html

But keep paying for your permits. .. :roll: :roll:

Gary, where exactly do you rank?



I think you are missing the point George. Why pay for a permit when the work is dwindling away? :-|


Why do the job if you believe you can't make a decent living?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:13 pm 
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BusyTodayCabby wrote:
Skull wrote:
BusyTodayCabby wrote:
Skull wrote:
I wouldn't expect to much work from Edinburgh Waverley and Haymarket Station Ranks in the near future :shock:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -cent.html

But keep paying for your permits. .. :roll: :roll:

Gary, where exactly do you rank?



I think you are missing the point George. Why pay for a permit when the work is dwindling away? :-|

Gary, you and I don't pay for the permit, our 'masters' are good enough to do that for us. They have not had to cough up for the Haymarket pass for about 3 years. If your professy of another 100 plates comes to fruision that will also dilute the work, will it not?


No, it will simply mean 100 double shifted taxis becoming single shifted, with the same guys doing the same job but driving their own vehicles. :-|

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No, it will simply mean 100 double shifted taxis becoming single shifted, with the same guys doing the same job but driving their own vehicles. :-|


So it is your belief that the 100 double shifted taxis will be replaced with 200 single shifted taxis and none of those drivers (that now own their own vehicles) will want to work longer hours, thus the trade will not be diluted

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No, it will simply mean 100 double shifted taxis becoming single shifted, with the same guys doing the same job but driving their own vehicles. :-|


So it is your belief that the 100 double shifted taxis will be replaced with 200 single shifted taxis and none of those drivers (that now own their own vehicles) will want to work longer hours, thus the trade will not be diluted


No, as a consequence of the unrealistic or realistic expectations of those working in the trade, the trade will evolve. Some will work more hours and some less, eventually it will work itself out.

I think it is unrealistic to expect drivers to pay ridiculous rentals or plate “values” to prop-up the illusion of owners, while operating in a depreciating market with diminishing returns.

However, I think it is realistic for drivers to have the choice to own or drive and to work their own hours.

If some owners can't exist by single shifting their vehicles, then perhaps they should be looking for another job.

We need higher standards and regulations but no restricted access to the to the tools of our trade.

The trade and the council's attitude to how it should operate, is an anachronism. You can manage change, or get swallowed up in the process. :-|

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No, as a consequence of the unrealistic or realistic expectations of those working in the trade, the trade will evolve. Some will work more hours and some less, eventually it will work itself out.


Are you sure the trade will evolve? The drivers here are just working more and more for less and less, but, that could just be something that happens here

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I think it is unrealistic to expect drivers to pay ridiculous rentals or plate “values” to prop-up the illusion of owners, while operating in a depreciating market with diminishing returns.


That will be sorted by supply and demand surely. When the uptake of rentals becomes less because people realise it ain't what it's cracked up to be then the rental prices will drop, won't they?

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However, I think it is realistic for drivers to have the choice to own or drive and to work their own hours.


They already do, it's called private hire

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We need higher standards and regulations but no restricted access to the to the tools of our trade.


Well in a perfect world that would be nice but you have to remember that Best Practice don't like onerus conditions, regulations or standards. I also think that the 'tools of our trade' is the actual drivers licence but I could be wrong

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The trade and the council's attitude to how it should operate, is an anachronism. You can manage change, or get swallowed up in the process.


Change takes time if it's rushed it could end up worse than the situation we have now. Things shouldn't be changed just because they are out dated there needs to be proper alternatives to be put in their place

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No, as a consequence of the unrealistic or realistic expectations of those working in the trade, the trade will evolve. Some will work more hours and some less, eventually it will work itself out.


Are you sure the trade will evolve? The drivers here are just working more and more for less and less, but, that could just be something that happens here

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I think it is unrealistic to expect drivers to pay ridiculous rentals or plate “values” to prop-up the illusion of owners, while operating in a depreciating market with diminishing returns.


That will be sorted by supply and demand surely. When the uptake of rentals becomes less because people realise it ain't what it's cracked up to be then the rental prices will drop, won't they?

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However, I think it is realistic for drivers to have the choice to own or drive and to work their own hours.


They already do, it's called private hire

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We need higher standards and regulations but no restricted access to the to the tools of our trade.


Well in a perfect world that would be nice but you have to remember that Best Practice don't like onerus conditions, regulations or standards. I also think that the 'tools of our trade' is the actual drivers licence but I could be wrong

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The trade and the council's attitude to how it should operate, is an anachronism. You can manage change, or get swallowed up in the process.


Change takes time if it's rushed it could end up worse than the situation we have now. Things shouldn't be changed just because they are out dated there needs to be proper alternatives to be put in their place


Tell me you don't believe the shi* you've just written in response to my post.

All the above is utter garbage. I could pick it apart, but I couldn't do it justice.

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No, as a consequence of the unrealistic or realistic expectations of those working in the trade, the trade will evolve. Some will work more hours and some less, eventually it will work itself out.


Are you sure the trade will evolve? The drivers here are just working more and more for less and less, but, that could just be something that happens here

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I think it is unrealistic to expect drivers to pay ridiculous rentals or plate “values” to prop-up the illusion of owners, while operating in a depreciating market with diminishing returns.


That will be sorted by supply and demand surely. When the uptake of rentals becomes less because people realise it ain't what it's cracked up to be then the rental prices will drop, won't they?

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However, I think it is realistic for drivers to have the choice to own or drive and to work their own hours.


They already do, it's called private hire

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We need higher standards and regulations but no restricted access to the to the tools of our trade.


Well in a perfect world that would be nice but you have to remember that Best Practice don't like onerus conditions, regulations or standards. I also think that the 'tools of our trade' is the actual drivers licence but I could be wrong

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The trade and the council's attitude to how it should operate, is an anachronism. You can manage change, or get swallowed up in the process.


Change takes time if it's rushed it could end up worse than the situation we have now. Things shouldn't be changed just because they are out dated there needs to be proper alternatives to be put in their place


Tell me you don't believe the shi* you've just written in response to my post.

All the above is utter garbage. I could pick it apart, but I couldn't do it justice.

:-|


Be my guest, pick it apart. You don't need to do it justice it'll only be opinion after all, just like that is mine :wink:

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The above is not opinion Toots, but it is complete shi*. I think I'll just leave it the way that it is.

I don't want to get personal, but you've got a man problem, and that means any man.

Your "opinion" is loaded with inferiority. You'll say anything just to have an opposing "opinion".


Give yourself a shake Toots.

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The above is not opinion Toots, but it is complete shi*. I think I'll just leave it the way that it is.

I don't want to get personal, but you've got a man problem, and that means any man.

Your "opinion" is loaded with inferiority. You'll say anything just to have an opposing "opinion".


Give yourself a shake Toots.

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