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Author:  cabby john [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Consultation was flawed............my ar$e!
This is an example of the way that Newport Council do business by literally steam rolling over people.

Their idea of consultation is to invite you to a meeting, to then listen to your views...................and to then throw them into the bin. Power corrupts!

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/8 ... ___report/
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Consultation was flawed............my ar$e!
cabby john wrote:
This is an example of the way that Newport Council do business by literally steam rolling over people.

Their idea of consultation is to invite you to a meeting, to then listen to your views...................and to then throw them into the bin. Power corrupts!

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/8 ... ___report/

I think here is a good place to list the requirements that councils should do when consulting. Called 'Sedley Requirements' after a court case.

(1) consultation must be at a time when proposals are still at a formative stage;

(2) the authority must give sufficient information and reasons for any proposal to permit intelligent consideration and response;

(3) adequate time must be given for consideration and response;

(4) the results of consultation must be conscientiously taken into account in finalising any proposals.

If they don't do all that, then any consultation is illegal.
Author:  Skull [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Consultation was flawed............my ar$e!
Sussex wrote:
cabby john wrote:
This is an example of the way that Newport Council do business by literally steam rolling over people.

Their idea of consultation is to invite you to a meeting, to then listen to your views...................and to then throw them into the bin. Power corrupts!

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/8 ... ___report/

I think here is a good place to list the requirements that councils should do when consulting. Called 'Sedley Requirements' after a court case.

(1) consultation must be at a time when proposals are still at a formative stage;

(2) the authority must give sufficient information and reasons for any proposal to permit intelligent consideration and response;

(3) adequate time must be given for consideration and response;

(4) the results of consultation must be conscientiously taken into account in finalising any proposals.

If they don't do all that, then any consultation is illegal.



Yes, but if they hop and skip through the process, they are in the clear. They simply claim to have solicited and acted upon an independent professional opinion. Their decision is therefore, plausible and any wrongdoing, deniable.

They tell the consultants what answers they want, and the rest is history. :-|
Author:  cabby john [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:02 pm ]
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At the end of the day they have had people/public into a meeting! but there will be no accurate word for word version recorded and until that happens there never will be "Proper Consultation". All any of them do is to go through the motions (lip service), their minds are already made up.
Author:  Skull [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:40 pm ]
Post subject: 
cabby john wrote:
At the end of the day they have had people/public into a meeting! but there will be no accurate word for word version recorded and until that happens there never will be "Proper Consultation". All any of them do is to go through the motions (lip service), their minds are already made up.


How can you say such a thing? Toots, put this man straight, why don't you?
Author:  toots [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:27 pm ]
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Skull wrote:
cabby john wrote:
At the end of the day they have had people/public into a meeting! but there will be no accurate word for word version recorded and until that happens there never will be "Proper Consultation". All any of them do is to go through the motions (lip service), their minds are already made up.


How can you say such a thing? Toots, put this man straight, why don't you?


Wtf you on about now :-|
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