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What a Great story well done to all taxi drivers who took part =D> =D>


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just read it on remembrance thread, and agreed, brilliant gesture \:D/

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A number of poppys?


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A number of poppys?

Maybe, like me, they had them on display in their cabs.

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I won't buy a poppy because of the death and damage caused to my mothers home city. She was a teenager at the start of the war and when she was 20 in 1942 she was part of a team helping to take the children out of the city. between then and 1943, her homes were destroyed 3 times and in one raid around 50,000 civilians were killed. people were burning in the street from the phosphorus bombs. One day she was at work when a fighter flew down the street firing into the buildings. They were not military buildings, just offices. That was life in Hamburg.

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grandad wrote:
I won't buy a poppy because of the death and damage caused to my mothers home city. She was a teenager at the start of the war and when she was 20 in 1942 she was part of a team helping to take the children out of the city. between then and 1943, her homes were destroyed 3 times and in one raid around 50,000 civilians were killed. people were burning in the street from the phosphorus bombs. One day she was at work when a fighter flew down the street firing into the buildings. They were not military buildings, just offices. That was life in Hamburg.

Are you suggesting that there are any winners in war, or that nice things happened elsewhere?

The poppy, IMO, is a chance for folks to remember all those that have died in war since 1914.

But if you choose another method to remember, then so be it.

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Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
I won't buy a poppy because of the death and damage caused to my mothers home city. She was a teenager at the start of the war and when she was 20 in 1942 she was part of a team helping to take the children out of the city. between then and 1943, her homes were destroyed 3 times and in one raid around 50,000 civilians were killed. people were burning in the street from the phosphorus bombs. One day she was at work when a fighter flew down the street firing into the buildings. They were not military buildings, just offices. That was life in Hamburg.

Are you suggesting that there are any winners in war, or that nice things happened elsewhere?

The poppy, IMO, is a chance for folks to remember all those that have died in war since 1914.

But if you choose another method to remember, then so be it.


There are never any winners in war. But what some people do forget is that many, many civilians were killed on all sides in WWII for no military gain.

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grandad wrote:
I won't buy a poppy because of the death and damage caused to my mothers home city. She was a teenager at the start of the war and when she was 20 in 1942 she was part of a team helping to take the children out of the city. between then and 1943, her homes were destroyed 3 times and in one raid around 50,000 civilians were killed. people were burning in the street from the phosphorus bombs. One day she was at work when a fighter flew down the street firing into the buildings. They were not military buildings, just offices. That was life in Hamburg.


Many targets were of little military or strategic consequence on both sides, the point of "Blitzkrieg" was to break the will of the people, hence the screaming sounds of Junkers 87 (Stuka) dive bombers fitted with a siren , and the process of de-synchronising german aircraft engines to give a distinctive sound, whatever happened in Germany during WW2 from allied bombing was no different to what happened to Coventry, London, Plymouth, Birmingham and Liverpool earlier.




and Germany started it.......... :?


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wannabeeahack wrote:
grandad wrote:
I won't buy a poppy because of the death and damage caused to my mothers home city. She was a teenager at the start of the war and when she was 20 in 1942 she was part of a team helping to take the children out of the city. between then and 1943, her homes were destroyed 3 times and in one raid around 50,000 civilians were killed. people were burning in the street from the phosphorus bombs. One day she was at work when a fighter flew down the street firing into the buildings. They were not military buildings, just offices. That was life in Hamburg.


Many targets were of little military or strategic consequence on both sides, the point of "Blitzkrieg" was to break the will of the people, hence the screaming sounds of Junkers 87 (Stuka) dive bombers fitted with a siren , and the process of de-synchronising german aircraft engines to give a distinctive sound, whatever happened in Germany during WW2 from allied bombing was no different to what happened to Coventry, London, Plymouth, Birmingham and Liverpool earlier.




and Germany started it.......... :?


The civilians in any of the countries didn't start it, didn't want it but suffered for it.
At least prior to WWII battles were more or less between opposing armies on a battlefield without many civilians being directly targetted.

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Technically speaking the population did start it, they voted Hitler in and from there on it was inevitable, that was his plan.

70 years ago Coventry was bombed and there were services and suchlike this weekend, no mention of how Churchill refused to warn Coventry even though he KNEW it was going to be the target of a big raid lest Germany sussed that the allies had broken the Enigma codes.


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