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‘Alienation is the precise and correctly applied word for describing the major social problem in Britain today. People feel alienated by society. In some intellectual circles it is treated almost as a new phenomenon. It has, however, been with us for years. What I believe is true is that today it is more widespread, more pervasive than ever before. Let me right at the outset define what I mean by alienation. It is the cry of men who feel themselves the victims of blind economic forces beyond their control. It’s the frustration of ordinary people excluded from the processes of decision-making. The feeling of despair and hopelessness that pervades people who feel with justification that they have no real say in shaping or determining their own destinies.

Many may not have rationalised it. May not even understand, may not be able to articulate it. But they feel it. It therefore conditions and colours their social attitudes. Alienation expresses itself in different ways in different people. It is to be found in what our courts often describe as the criminal antisocial behaviour of a section of the community. It is expressed by those young people who want to opt out of society, by drop-outs, the so-called maladjusted, those who seek to escape permanently from the reality of society through intoxicants and narcotics. Of course, it would be wrong to say it was the sole reason for these things. But it is a much greater factor in all of them than is generally recognised.

Society and its prevailing sense of values leads to another form of alienation. It alienates some from humanity. It partially de-humanises some people, makes them insensitive, ruthless in their handling of fellow human beings, self-centred and grasping. The irony is, they are often considered normal and well-adjusted. It is my sincere contention that anyone who can be totally adjusted to our society is in greater need of psychiatric analysis and treatment than anyone else. They remind me of the character in the novel, Catch 22, the father of Major Major. He was a farmer in the American Mid-West. He hated suggestions for things like medi-care, social services, unemployment benefits or civil rights. He was, however, an enthusiast for the agricultural policies that paid farmers for not bringing their fields under cultivation. From the money he got for not growing alfalfa he bought more land in order not to grow alfalfa. He became rich. Pilgrims came from all over the state to sit at his feet and learn how to be a successful non-grower of alfalfa. His philosophy was simple. The poor didn’t work hard enough and so they were poor. He believed that the good Lord gave him two strong hands to grab as much as he could for himself. He is a comic figure. But think – have you not met his like here in Britain? Here in Scotland? I have.

It is easy and tempting to hate such people. However, it is wrong. They are as much products of society, and of a consequence of that society, human alienation, as the poor drop-out. They are losers. They have lost the essential elements of our common humanity. Man is a social being. Real fulfilment for any person lies in service to his fellow men and women. The big challenge to our civilisation is not Oz, a magazine I haven’t seen, let alone read. Nor is it permissiveness, although I agree our society is too permissive. Any society which, for example, permits over one million people to be unemployed is far too permissive for my liking. Nor is it moral laxity in the narrow sense that this word is generally employed – although in a sense here we come nearer to the problem. It does involve morality, ethics, and our concept of human values. The challenge we face is that of rooting out anything and everything that distorts and devalues human relations.

Let me give two examples from contemporary experience to illustrate the point.

Recently on television I saw an advert. The scene is a banquet. A gentleman is on his feet proposing a toast. His speech is full of phrases like “this full-bodied specimen”. Sitting beside him is a young, buxom woman. The image she projects is not pompous but foolish. She is visibly preening herself, believing that she is the object of the bloke’s eulogy. Then he concludes – “and now I give…”, then a brand name of what used to be described as Empire sherry. Then the laughter. Derisive and cruel laughter. The real point, of course, is this. In this charade, the viewers were obviously expected to identify not with the victim but with her tormentors.

The other illustration is the widespread, implicit acceptance of the concept and term “the rat race”. The picture it conjures up is one where we are scurrying around scrambling for position, trampling on others, back-stabbing, all in pursuit of personal success. Even genuinely intended, friendly advice can sometimes take the form of someone saying to you, “Listen, you look after number one.” Or as they say in London, “Bang the bell, Jack, I’m on the bus.”

To the students [of Glasgow University] I address this appeal. Reject these attitudes. Reject the values and false morality that underlie these attitudes. A rat race is for rats. We’re not rats. We’re human beings. Reject the insidious pressures in society that would blunt your critical faculties to all that is happening around you, that would caution silence in the face of injustice lest you jeopardise your chances of promotion and self-advancement. This is how it starts, and before you know where you are, you’re a fully paid-up member of the rat-pack. The price is too high. It entails the loss of your dignity and human spirit. Or as Christ put it, “What doth it profit a man if he gain the whole world and suffer the loss of his soul?”

Profit is the sole criterion used by the establishment to evaluate economic activity. From the rat race to lame ducks. The vocabulary in vogue is a give-away. It’s more reminiscent of a human menagerie than human society. The power structures that have inevitably emerged from this approach threaten and undermine our hard-won democratic rights. The whole process is towards the centralisation and concentration of power in fewer and fewer hands. The facts are there for all who want to see. Giant monopoly companies and consortia dominate almost every branch of our economy. The men who wield effective control within these giants exercise a power over their fellow men which is frightening and is a negation of democracy.

Government by the people for the people becomes meaningless unless it includes major economic decision-making by the people for the people. This is not simply an economic matter. In essence it is an ethical and moral question, for whoever takes the important economic decisions in society ipso facto determines the social priorities of that society.

From the Olympian heights of an executive suite, in an atmosphere where your success is judged by the extent to which you can maximise profits, the overwhelming tendency must be to see people as units of production, as indices in your accountants’ books. To appreciate fully the inhumanity of this situation, you have to see the hurt and despair in the eyes of a man suddenly told he is redundant, without provision made for suitable alternative employment, with the prospect in the West of Scotland, if he is in his late forties or fifties, of spending the rest of his life in the Labour Exchange. Someone, somewhere has decided he is unwanted, unneeded, and is to be thrown on the industrial scrap heap. From the very depth of my being, I challenge the right of any man or any group of men, in business or in government, to tell a fellow human being that he or she is expendable.

The concentration of power in the economic field is matched by the centralisation of decision-making in the political institutions of society. The power of Parliament has undoubtedly been eroded over past decades, with more and more authority being invested in the Executive. The power of local authorities has been and is being systematically undermined. The only justification I can see for local government is as a counter- balance to the centralised character of national government.

Local government is to be restructured. What an opportunity, one would think, for de-centralising as much power as possible back to the local communities. Instead, the proposals are for centralising local government. It’s once again a blue-print for bureaucracy, not democracy. If these proposals are implemented, in a few years when asked “Where do you come from?” I can reply: “The Western Region.” It even sounds like a hospital board.

It stretches from Oban to Girvan and eastwards to include most of the Glasgow conurbation. As in other matters, I must ask the politicians who favour these proposals – where and how in your calculations did you quantify the value of a community? Of community life? Of a sense of belonging? Of the feeling of identification? These are rhetorical questions. I know the answer. Such human considerations do not feature in their thought processes.

Everything that is proposed from the establishment seems almost calculated to minimise the role of the people, to miniaturise man. I can understand how attractive this prospect must be to those at the top. Those of us who refuse to be pawns in their power game can be picked up by their bureaucratic tweezers and dropped in a filing cabinet under “M” for malcontent or maladjusted. When you think of some of the high flats around us, it can hardly be an accident that they are as near as one could get to an architectural representation of a filing cabinet.

If modern technology requires greater and larger productive units, let’s make our wealth-producing resources and potential subject to public control and to social accountability. Let’s gear our society to social need, not personal greed. Given such creative re-orientation of society, there is no doubt in my mind that in a few years we could eradicate in our country the scourge of poverty, the underprivileged, slums, and insecurity.

Even this is not enough. To measure social progress purely by material advance is not enough. Our aim must be the enrichment of the whole quality of life. It requires a social and cultural, or if you wish, a spiritual transformation of our country. A necessary part of this must be the restructuring of the institutions of government and, where necessary, the evolution of additional structures so as to involve the people in the decision-making processes of our society. The so-called experts will tell you that this would be cumbersome or marginally inefficient. I am prepared to sacrifice a margin of efficiency for the value of the people’s participation. Anyway, in the longer term, I reject this argument.

To unleash the latent potential of our people requires that we give them responsibility. The untapped resources of the North Sea are as nothing compared to the untapped resources of our people. I am convinced that the great mass of our people go through life without even a glimmer of what they could have contributed to their fellow human beings. This is a personal tragedy. It’s a social crime. The flowering of each individual’s personality and talents is the pre-condition for everyone’s development.

In this context education has a vital role to play. If automation and technology is accompanied as it must be with a full employment, then the leisure time available to man will be enormously increased. If that is so, then our whole concept of education must change. The whole object must be to equip and educate people for life, not solely for work or a profession. The creative use of leisure, in communion with and in service to our fellow human beings, can and must become an important element in self-fulfilment.

Universities must be in the forefront of development, must meet social needs and not lag behind them. It is my earnest desire that this great University of Glasgow should be in the vanguard, initiating changes and setting the example for others to follow. Part of our educational process must be the involvement of all sections of the university on the governing bodies. The case for student representation is unanswerable. It is inevitable.

My conclusion is to re-affirm what I hope and certainly intend to be the spirit permeating this address. It’s an affirmation of faith in humanity. All that is good in man’s heritage involves recognition of our common humanity, an unashamed acknowledgement that man is good by nature. Burns expressed it in a poem that technically was not his best, yet captured the spirit. In “Why should we idly waste our prime…”:

“The golden age, we’ll then revive, each man shall be a brother,

In harmony we all shall live and till the earth together,

In virtue trained, enlightened youth shall move each fellow creature,

And time shall surely prove the truth that man is good by nature.”

It’s my belief that all the factors to make a practical reality of such a world are maturing now. I would like to think that our generation took mankind some way along the road towards this goal. It’s a goal worth fighting for.’

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You actually expect anyone to read though all that and waste their time?


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LongshanksED wrote:
You actually expect anyone to read though all that and waste their time?


One of the best, most balanced and logical speeches the world has ever heard. That's why it has been reproduced all around the entire world, without the aid of the internet. From that rarest of all phenomenon, an intelligent and articulate man with a real social conscience.

Once again Longshanks you've shown that you are incapable of any understanding of the world you live in. Why you never learn.


Is it any wonder that councils think we are just the shecht on their shoes and ram us at every opportunity?
It's folks like you who are holding us back. Suppressing us. Preventing us from owning what should be ours by right. Living our lives free from incessant control freak petty officials.


Respect Jimmy Reid. Respect.

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The Human Race is like milk. When you've skimmed off all that is good, all you're left with is the unpalatable.

Ergo the taxi trade.


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Todays generation have forgotten the 70's with unions trying to rule and overule everything any goverment (even Labour) wanted or tried to do, lets put the rose tinted glasses on and read of Scargill, Red Robbo, etc, etc, folk heroes now, but just block-vote bullies back then

when Labour won elections the union leaders were at number 10 before any cabinet was invited in, oh yes, the good old days indeed!

workers want paying wages, and better wages, then decry management and capitialism for producing the profits that pay them....


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wannabeeahack wrote:
Todays generation have forgotten the 70's with unions trying to rule and overule everything any goverment (even Labour) wanted or tried to do, lets put the rose tinted glasses on and read of Scargill, Red Robbo, etc, etc, folk heroes now, but just block-vote bullies back then

when Labour won elections the union leaders were at number 10 before any cabinet was invited in, oh yes, the good old days indeed!

workers want paying wages, and better wages, then decry management and capitialism for producing the profits that pay them....


Dearie me. You're not the brightest candle in the box, are you?

Capitalism doesn't produce profits. Profits are produced by the sweat of the workers' labour. The commodities produced by that labour. Nothing else.

Now tell me where these guys were wrong?

Scargill told us that Thatcher was intent on destroying the mining industry. Well, lo and behold, what happened? Thatcher destroyed the mining industry. She did it to break the collective strength of the workers.

So, Scargill was right.

Now we're left with an impending energy shortage and vandalised coal reserves which could have met that shortage.

Now Cameron, Thatcher's evil spawn, is gonna do the same thing. Emasculate the workers, make them pay for Capitalism's failures.

Last night I heard the most absurd thing on Any questions. Talking about the potential BAA strikes, John Sargent said that although the workers are being oppressed again, unlike the 70s they would not be able to resort to the same tactics. The Law has been changed and wouldn't allow it.

What Sargent fails to appreciate is that in the face of such an attack on its working conditions by the Capitalist masters the Law will mean nothing. There is going to come a time when workers will distance themselves from their union leaders, removing any legal threat to the Unions' organisation and resources, and take direct action.

Anyone wanna bet against that the cops are already topping up their riot gear stocks?


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Bear in mind that at the end of WWII manufacturing in our economy was 40%. By the time of Thatcher's intervention it was halved. It now sits around 13%.

UK capitalists have diverted our manufacturing, our jobs, to the sweat shops of the far east. We pay a hundred quid for a pair of trainers, the system's worthless "human debris" making them gets the price of a tea bag for doing so. We don't care, we just look at the shiny new trainers and don't concern ourselves about the exploitation and human misery they represent.

UK Capitalism has crafted a nation with a museum economy. We don't make anything. We're just like a cowboy movie set. You see the building facades, but there is nothing behind them.

But Thatcher allowed us to believe we were part of this property owning museum by selling us our council houses. Now we all think we are capitalists and share the illusion. And will protect that illusion zealously.

Suckers!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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And so sayeth preacher Jim!!!

The man who brags about his mortgage-laden house on its private suburban estate.

The man who enjoys driving his status symbol car - an Audi, no less.

The man who is married to a lady who is part of the capitalist society he so roundly condemns.

The man who seeks to join the elite of this society by owning his own taxi so he can then join the taxi barons that he supposedly detests.

The last bit there just shatters any illusion we may have about his sincerely held socialist beliefs.

Jim you wouldn't know truth or idealism if it hit you smack in the face!!


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We are all enslaved by the capitalist illusion of ownership, at least to some degree. It's the system that tries to control us but that doesn't mean we all have to believe it is true. Some of us actually know the truth, with all those little pieces of paper with your name on it. You know, you own “your own house", “your car”, “your taxi” and that yellow licence plate with the City of Edinburgh Council written all over it.

When at best you are really just a caretaker for something you might never get the chance to pass on to your kids. Admirable as that may be, Alzheimer can quickly change your plans. Go a little doolally, and the Government will come for “your property" and “your pension" too.

The capitalist illusion of ownership has you by the balls. Everything with your name on it actually owns you. The direct debit monster has to be fed and everything you own has to be maintained, replaced or renewed. If you don't believe me, wait until the Cab Inspector asks you up to his office for a little chat about some misdemeanor. You will spill your guts and suck his dick to keep your little illusion going.

Oh and then there's, de-restriction, you can only imagine what happens if the plug gets pulled. No more hiked rentals, no pretend plate values and as many hours to drive “your own taxi” as you can wish for.

There are exceptions to the above like the Wayne Rooney's of this world, but even they won't be taking anything with them when their time is up.

“A rat race is for rats” Jimmy Reid got it right. Why don't you ask the 21 owners suspended in Ashfield, what it feels like to be big businessmen who own everything?

Only Rats would stand back and do nothing.

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You've got to hand it to Thatcher, she knew how to bring down the working class. Selling off public housing to create the capitalist illusion of ownership was a master stroke – divide and rule. And they wonder how Britain is Broken. :roll:

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And so sayeth preacher Jim!!!

The man who brags about his mortgage-laden house on its private suburban estate.

The man who enjoys driving his status symbol car - an Audi, no less.

The man who is married to a lady who is part of the capitalist society he so roundly condemns.

The man who seeks to join the elite of this society by owning his own taxi so he can then join the taxi barons that he supposedly detests.

The last bit there just shatters any illusion we may have about his sincerely held socialist beliefs.

Jim you wouldn't know truth or idealism if it hit you smack in the face!!


A cynic might think you're a wee tad jealous.

Now why don't you tell us all how you've fared as a taxi trade "capitalist businessman" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Or is it that you are simply telling us all here that you are unable to play your illusion as well as I can?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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We are all enslaved by the capitalist illusion of ownership, at least to some degree. It's the system that tries to control us but that doesn't mean we all have to believe it is true. Some of us actually know the truth, with all those little pieces of paper with your name on it. You know, you own “your own house", “your car”, “your taxi” and that yellow licence plate with the City of Edinburgh Council written all over it.

When at best you are really just a caretaker for something you might never get the chance to pass on to your kids. Admirable as that may be, Alzheimer can quickly change your plans. Go a little doolally, and the Government will come for “your property" and “your pension" too.

The capitalist illusion of ownership has you by the balls. Everything with your name on it actually owns you. The direct debit monster has to be fed and everything you own has to be maintained, replaced or renewed. If you don't believe me, wait until the Cab Inspector asks you up to his office for a little chat about some misdemeanor. You will spill your guts and suck his dick to keep your little illusion going.

Oh and then there's, de-restriction, you can only imagine what happens if the plug gets pulled. No more hiked rentals, no pretend plate values and as many hours to drive “your own taxi” as you can wish for.

There are exceptions to the above like the Wayne Rooney's of this world, but even they won't be taking anything with them when their time is up.

“A rat race is for rats” Jimmy Reid got it right. Why don't you ask the 21 owners suspended in Ashfield, what it feels like to be big businessmen who own everything?

Only Rats would stand back and do nothing.

:-|


Fact is that home ownership is not an issue in most of the EU, or the USA even. The normal situation is to rent.

As you say, Thatcher changed the goal posts to bring us all the illusion of being members of the club.

Methinks the Bilderbecks are pishing themselves at how easily the canon fodder were duped.

Nae pockets in a shroud as they say. And it's better to help your kids get the best possible start in life than to leave them a few sheckles for them to pish up a wall.

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We are all enslaved by the capitalist illusion of ownership, at least to some degree. It's the system that tries to control us but that doesn't mean we all have to believe it is true. Some of us actually know the truth, with all those little pieces of paper with your name on it. You know, you own “your own house", “your car”, “your taxi” and that yellow licence plate with the City of Edinburgh Council written all over it.

When at best you are really just a caretaker for something you might never get the chance to pass on to your kids. Admirable as that may be, Alzheimer can quickly change your plans. Go a little doolally, and the Government will come for “your property" and “your pension" too.

The capitalist illusion of ownership has you by the balls. Everything with your name on it actually owns you. The direct debit monster has to be fed and everything you own has to be maintained, replaced or renewed. If you don't believe me, wait until the Cab Inspector asks you up to his office for a little chat about some misdemeanor. You will spill your guts and suck his dick to keep your little illusion going.

Oh and then there's, de-restriction, you can only imagine what happens if the plug gets pulled. No more hiked rentals, no pretend plate values and as many hours to drive “your own taxi” as you can wish for.

There are exceptions to the above like the Wayne Rooney's of this world, but even they won't be taking anything with them when their time is up.

“A rat race is for rats” Jimmy Reid got it right. Why don't you ask the 21 owners suspended in Ashfield, what it feels like to be big businessmen who own everything?

Only Rats would stand back and do nothing.

:-|


Fact is that home ownership is not an issue in most of the EU, or the USA even. The normal situation is to rent.

As you say, Thatcher changed the goal posts to bring us all the illusion of being members of the club.

Methinks the Bilderbecks are pishing themselves at how easily the canon fodder were duped.

Nae pockets in a shroud as they say. And it's better to help your kids get the best possible start in life than to leave them a few sheckles for them to pish up a wall.

:roll:


Yes Jasbar, it seems to be the truth, they can't stomach. :-|

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Everyone participating in this forum should read JIMMY REID's speech. If you want to know why you deserve to be treated like shi*, it's all there.

I always make the point that I am not a taxi driver, I just drive a taxi to earn money.

To be a taxi driver you've got to think like one, and that means to have no respect for yourself.

You only get what you deserve.

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Scargill told us that Thatcher was intent on destroying the mining industry. Well, lo and behold, what happened? Thatcher destroyed the mining industry. She did it to break the collective strength of the workers.

So, Scargill was right.



Thatcher was more intent on smashing the power of the unions and she was spoiling for a fight.
Scargill was the fool who obliged.

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Everyone participating in this forum should read JIMMY REID's speech. If you want to know why you deserve to be treated like shi*, it's all there.

I always make the point that I am not a taxi driver, I just drive a taxi to earn money.

To be a taxi driver you've got to think like one, and that means to have no respect for yourself.

You only get what you deserve.

:wink:


You don't half peddle some sh*te ffs :roll:

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