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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:53 pm 
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A FORMER Kidderminster taxi driver’s claim that Wyre Forest District Council could be breaking the law by allegedly making a profit from taxi licence fees has been rejected by a council chief.

John Turley, 41, a father-of-six, of Clarence Street, said that fees were rising steadily year by year and had become unfair and unreasonable.

Conservative, Marcus Hart, cabinet member for housing and environmental services, said, however, that the taxi licence fee only increased in line with inflation each year.

Mr Turley said that when he started driving a taxi in 1994, it cost £26 for a 12-month hackney carriage driver’s licence, whereas now it was £261 for two years.

He added that a hackney carriage vehicle licence was £100 a year in 1994 and was now £368 for the same period.

Mr Turley said that, according to the law, “a district council may demand and recover for the grant to any person of a licence to drive a hackney carriage, such a fee as they consider reasonable with a view to recovering the costs of issue and administration”.

He added: “The question is, what is reasonable? I, personally, think these fees are not reasonable and may be even illegal.

“After all, the fees are not meant to cover the cost of running a department - they are for issuing licences.

“The Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) check is only £36 at other councils, including Birmingham and London, so where is the other £19 going? Not a reasonable fee, surely?”

Mr Turley, who stopped driving a taxi at the end of July, said he had become fed up with parking illegally because there were too many taxis and not enough space on the ranks.

He added: “All taxi drivers are suffering. The main problem is the issuing of unlimited licences, combined with a limited amount of taxi space to ply for hire.”

Mr Hart said: "The taxi licence fee is set by the council but only increases in line with inflation each year on average by about three per cent.

“The aim is for the service to be cost neutral rather than for the council to make a profit from it - the fee is designed to cover the costs of administering the application.”

He added: “There is no limit on the number of taxi licences that the council can issue. This follows the council's response to an Office of Fair Trading report a number of years ago which sought to question those authorities that were still 'in regulation' i.e limited the issue of taxi licences.

“Wyre Forest could not justify that and embarked on a deregulation plan, which means there is no limit on the number of licences we can issue.

“What the council has done, though, as part of its deregulation plan is to ensure that it has a fleet of hackney carriages that are of very good quality and comfort and are accessible to all.”


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I think Mr Turley has a point.

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I think Mr Turley has a point.

Absolutely.

It doesn't cost £261 to print a license, and make a plastic badge.

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We dont have a "department", in fact, we dont even have a licensing officer, we share one who doubles up as an enviromental occifer, but my A4 laminated ops licence costs £40...

good markup for 1 sheet of paper!


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When I submitted a FOI request for costs regarding the issue of badges it got met with a wall of silence.

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When I submitted a FOI request for costs regarding the issue of badges it got met with a wall of silence.

Send the FoI officer a reminder, and if still no go send a complaint to the Info Commissioner.

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Dear *******************

Further to your request for information in your email I would respond as follows:


As a result of the formation of Worcestershire Regulatory Services we have a total of 16 licensing officers' across the service, this has meant that in times of staff absence we have been able to direct our resources in a flexible way subject to demand, I do not therefore accept your assertion that staffing levels have dropped to one officer at Wychavon.



I have attached the report which was approved by the Licensing Committee in February 2009 relating to the review and increase in taxi licence fee levels following a review of the cost neutrality of the service. The fee levels set at that time were fully consulted upon and members agreed their current levels (plus inflation). You will note that Wychavon's fees are considerably lower than those at adjoining authorities.



The licensing service in respect of taxis is expected to be cost neutral – it is generally accepted that this is calculated over a three year period to iron out any short term anomalies in costs, and to allow for adjustments to be made in response to changes in demand in a measured way. Costs should include the whole cost of the service.



I would add that it is likely that a review of fees and charges will be carried out next year across Regulatory Services.



I hope this answers your query



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Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
I think Mr Turley has a point.

Absolutely.

It doesn't cost £261 to print a license, and make a plastic badge.


But they'll need the £220 over charge to cover the Staffs Gold Plated pension scheme, Junkets, Jollies, Health and Safety lessons on using a Pencil with A rubber attached, Licensing dept staff Diversity awareness and courses on etiquitte whilst addressing staff members who may be on a transgender journey.....see, its the little unforeseen extras that bumps the price up.. :roll:


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Maybe the whole service should be put out to tender, just like school transport....

GPs can do the medicals
CRB can do the checks
anyone can observe a meter over a measured mile, check theres a rooflight (if needed) and shuffle paperwork

whats left?.....


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wannabeeahack wrote:
Maybe the whole service should be put out to tender, just like school transport....

GPs can do the medicals
CRB can do the checks
anyone can observe a meter over a measured mile, check theres a rooflight (if needed) and shuffle paperwork

whats left?.....


That is a Highly skilled, Multi tasking and cerebrally Challenging job...Tis not the type of work us mere mortals could ever hope to aspire to. :?


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i can find my own arse in the dark so i suppose im overqualified?


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