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Author:  captain cab [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:14 pm ]
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Knifeman faces indefinite jail term for attempted robbery of taxi driver


A KNIFEMAN tried to rob a taxi driver weeks after he was released from a nine-year prison term for two knife raids.

Andrew Michael Reed could be jailed indefinitely as a dangerous offender for his latest knife crime. His sentence could hinge on whether a judge accepts his account of events.

Judge John Walford was unconvinced by Reed’s story, saying: “It seems to me rather to fly in the face of reality.”

Reed, 31, claims his attempt to rob cabbie Mehrban Manga was opportunistic and unplanned - not premeditated. Mr Manga, 41, said Reed produced the knife and demanded his takings saying: “Give me all you’ve got.”

Judge Walford said the varying accounts made “a substantial difference to sentence”, adding it could make the difference between a normal prison sentence and an indefinite one.

Reed said he found a knife then pulled it out during a dispute over the taxi fare, Teesside Crown Court heard.

According to Reed he committed the offence “almost by chance”, said Judge Walford.

The judge said: “On the face of it what we have here is the suggestion that, quite coincidentally, this defendant found a knife or picked up a knife which had been dropped. For some reason best known to himself, he decided to keep it.

“It’s somewhat stretching credulity that he suddenly finds himself with a knife and then, opportunistically without prior thought, he suddenly produces it. The taxi driver’s evidence paints a very different picture


The judge added: “Clearly on one view of the facts, an indeterminate sentence is likely, if not practically inevitable.”

Reed still stands by his account. A different judge will hear evidence to determine what really happened in a hearing on Monday.

Prosecutor Adrian Dent said: “This is an attempted robbery at knifepoint, of a taxi driver. He’s admitted that.”

Kieran Rainey, defending, suggested the taxi driver might remember the incident as “more sinister and ominous than perhaps it was”.

Reed, of St Nicholas Court, Grangetown, had denied the attempted robbery charge until this week, when he finally pleaded guilty.

The attempted robbery happened on July 29 last year, just over a month after his release from prison.

In August 2005 he was jailed for nine years for two knife raids in Grangetown. Even then, a judge warned him he could have gone away for life.

The drug addict brandished a kitchen knife in an off-licence and threatened a shopkeeper before escaping with £810 cash. A householder also suffered a stab wound to the stomach after Reed stormed into a home demanding money.

Reed, who has also admitted possession of heroin, is remanded in custody



source: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:22 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
The judge said: “On the face of it what we have here is the suggestion that, quite coincidentally, this defendant found a knife or picked up a knife which had been dropped. For some reason best known to himself, he decided to keep it.

“It’s somewhat stretching credulity that he suddenly finds himself with a knife and then, opportunistically without prior thought, he suddenly produces it.

:^o
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:55 pm ]
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Middlesbrough knifeman jailed indefinitely over cabbie attack

8:30am Tuesday 22nd February 2011

A knifeman who attempted to rob a taxi driver weeks after being released from a nine year prison sentence was jailed indefinitely yesterday.

There was a shout of "he may as well have done a murder" from the public gallery as Andrew Reed, 31 was led to the cells.

However, Recorder Michael Slater, sitting at Teesside Crown Court ruled that Reed was a danger to the public and ordered that he serve a minimum three years before being considered for parole.

The court had heard how Reed asked self-employed taxi driver, Mehbran Manga, to drive him into a cul-de-sac near Aberdale Road in Grangetown, Middlesbrough, at around 5am on July 29, last year.

As the car stopped, Reed leaned over from the back and held a seven-inch kitchen knife to the driver's neck, demanding he handed over his money.

Following a brief struggle, in which Mr Manga managed to bend the knife at a 90 degree angle, Reed fled.

He was jailed for nine years in August 2005 for two counts of aggravated burglary. He tried to rob the cabbie less than a month after his release.

Kieran Rainey, mitigating, said: "He does have a propensity to use knifes when they are near him or when he has brought them with him.

"He does not have a propensity to use them to cause serious injury.

"His long history does not show him to be a man who uses weapons in that way."

The court heard how Reed, from St Nicholas' Court, Grangetown, planned on moving to Oxford after his release but was unable to due police inquiries not being complete.

Sentencing, Mr Recorder Slater told Reed: "You have a history of using weapons throughout the course of your offending."

"You have been around the prison system long enough to know that your actions could result in the real possibility of a sentence of this nature."

Reed, who pleaded guilty to the attempted robbery in January, also admitted possessing a small amount of heroin. He was not sentenced for this offence.

Source; http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/8 ... ie_attack/
Author:  captain cab [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:25 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
A knifeman who attempted to rob a taxi driver weeks after being released from a nine year prison sentence was jailed indefinitely yesterday.

There was a shout of "he may as well have done a murder" from the public gallery as Andrew Reed, 31 was led to the cells.



Does the thought not occur to the f*ckwit who made that call.......perhaps thats what the judge was trying to avoid?

ffs

Jail that c*nt too.

CC
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:54 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
Does the thought not occur to the f*ckwit who made that call.......perhaps thats what the judge was trying to avoid?

ffs

Jail that c*nt too.

CC

Even with the sentence, he will be out in no time - then perhaps he and his mate in the public gallery will get their chance. eusasmiles.zip
Author:  Nidge [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:49 am ]
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Give him a cell with snowflake, I'm sure he's ready for him.
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:49 am ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
Even with the sentence, he will be out in no time -

I'm not too sure that's the case.

He will have to prove that he is safe to be released.

Can't see that happening soon.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:49 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
Even with the sentence, he will be out in no time -

I'm not too sure that's the case.

He will have to prove that he is safe to be released.

Can't see that happening soon.


the do-gooders will have him out before xmas
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:33 pm ]
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jailed, released, killed again....just desserts

Quote:
Hatch was jailed for life in 1994 after being convicted of killing a seven-year-old boy while on parole for a previous child sex attack.

Just over two years earlier, he had been jailed for three years for assaulting a boy of eight in almost identical circumstances.

His lawyer warned he could kill when he was released.

Within 11 weeks of being paroled in April 1993, Hatch struck again.

Sean Williams was abducted, sexually assaulted and then choked to death after Hatch lured him to his tower block home in Norfolk Close, Finchley, north London.





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-12549804
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:02 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Hatch was jailed for life in 1994 after being convicted of killing a seven-year-old boy while on parole for a previous child sex attack.

Just over two years earlier, he had been jailed for three years for assaulting a boy of eight in almost identical circumstances.

His lawyer warned he could kill when he was released.

Within 11 weeks of being paroled in April 1993, Hatch struck again.

Sean Williams was abducted, sexually assaulted and then choked to death after Hatch lured him to his tower block home in Norfolk Close, Finchley, north London.

Indeterminate sentences are different to the above.
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